Posts by pandorasbox1914

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GB bites off more than they can chew!

by biblexaminer in

the gb bit off more than they can chew.

they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.

as a result, they are in damage control mode.

pandorasbox1914

fastJehu

Get your point, but as you state that is for downloads, even then after three years it is still limited. But I think the point of this post is hard copy, it would seem that English is the only language available and that seems to be backed up by the WT article.
So if they have translated the new NW into 23 languages online, you would expect that at least these languages would be in print or that other languages would be a priority for those countries that have limited or no internet access!
That does not appear to be the case, that quote from WT 07 which the same as now would seem to indicate that they really are cutting down on printing, they do have money problems or something else is going on, or maybe all of those.

104

Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

pandorasbox1914

Hi notsurewheretogo,

I understand the point you are making and perhaps I should have clarified myself.

What I meant was, he did not use a scripture that clearly states or explains Overlapping Generations. What he actually used was an obscure explanation of a scripture from the old testament to explain a point made by Jesus in the new testament. 1 Cor 14:33 says "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace--as in all the congregations of the Lord's people".

Now if that scripture is correct and the explanation from Splane is correct, then why is there so much confusion among JW's?

Why then would God create so much confusion if we are truly deep into the time of the end?

Surely the light would become brighter, not dimmer.

Why then would God create so much confusion at this time if he truly does not desire people to be destroyed?

It should be as clear as day, but it is not, and that is because Jesus did not mean Overlapping Generations, otherwise he would have said so.

If he was going to use the scripture that Splane used, would he have not done so?

The reality is Jesus used no chart, no scripture (New or Old Testament), no vague or obscure meaning, there is no record that I am aware of, that the Disciples felt that they had to explain what Jesus said in a different way many years later. What Jesus said, is what he meant, and the reality is, that is what the Org believed until very recently.

So why the change?

They panicked, the Anointed that witnessed 1914 are gone, or nearly gone if any are still alive, everything they believed and preached was nailed to the cross of 1914 so to speak. If they allowed this corner stone to be removed, then the whole house of cards will collapse and nothing can stop it! Therefore, they had to shore up this doctrine, for without it they have nothing!

Of course there is another aspect to this, if they are wrong about this what else are they wrong about?

In 30 years of being in the truth, I cannot remember a single occasion when they have ever admitted to error or even apologised for anything!

They are like the Pope, infallible, and there you have the crux of the matter, it is all about image and control!

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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !

by Thirteenth tribe in

over the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.

but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.

one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!

pandorasbox1914

Hi Thirteenth Tribe,

Great post, by the way don't sugar coat it, tell it how it is!

104

Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 in

the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

pandorasbox1914

The September 2015 broadcast had David Splane explain Matthew 24:34 “Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”. His explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.

No scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.

To illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song My Generation.

My Generation

In 1965 Pete Townshend of The Who wrote the song My Generation, he told Rolling Stone magazine in 1985 that "'My Generation' was very much about trying to find a place in society."

So with this in mind insert overlapping before generation and see if it makes any sense!

People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
Why don't you all f-fade away (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
And don't try to d-dig what we all s-s-say (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm not trying to cause a b-big s-s-sensation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
I'm just talkin' 'bout my g-g-generation (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby
People try to put us d-down (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we g-g-get around (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
Yeah, I hope I die before I get old (Talkin' 'bout my generation)
This is my generation
This is my generation, baby

If you insert overlapping before generation the song no longer works, it does not tell the story as it was written, it makes no sense!

I postulate that overlapping generation has been formulated to overcome the failed 1914 prediction, the increasing anointed numbers and to perpetuate the Cult of FDS for the foreseeable future.

For just as inserting overlapping before generation in the song makes no sense, inserting overlapping before generation in Matthew 24:34 makes even less sense, as these are the words of Jesus himself, if he meant overlapping generation then he would have said so. But the reality is, he did not say this, so logically he did not mean this!

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Just handed in my Disassociation letter

by Thirteenth tribe in

tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).

i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.

i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.

pandorasbox1914

Hi Thirteenth tribe,

Liked your post, I bet the help from the elders was not there for you, as it has never been for any of us, perhaps instead of being judgemental they should be this:

Do they do this? They do the complete opposite! Why? Because they believe they are not the slaves, but rather the masters of us, or so they think. They say they love the sheep, but it is always the sheep's fault!

Perhaps this is who they really are:

108

Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister

by cappytan in

this video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.

however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.

feel free to claim credit here.

pandorasbox1914

That elder with his supercilious grin on his face, is as many others have stated, downright creepy. If he was genuinely concerned for this woman his facial reactions would have indicated this. Her story should have ripped his heart out, instead he was enjoying his Andy Warhol, 15 minutes of fame.

Sickening, especially the part at the end!

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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

jw
friends

this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

pandorasbox1914

Hi cappytan,

Man that was awesome, really great job.

Any more in the pipeline?

24

Just handed in my Disassociation letter

by Thirteenth tribe in

tonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).

i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.

i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.

pandorasbox1914

Hi Thirteenth tribe,

You have taken a decisive step, one that can leave them under no misunderstanding. But will they take any notice of you and the many others who have left or are in the process of leaving?

No they have invested so much in this that they cannot see what is in front of them:

Welcome to the real world Thirteenth tribe

5

Live by the sword, Die by the sword

by Thirteenth tribe in

i may be on a diatribe now but something has came back to me tonight.. during my studies i was always told that "silence is compliance".

this would come up whilst i was 'putting on the new personality'.

i would be reminded of possible social situations or associations where if my integrity was at all compromised by someone else's standards -my silence to their un-christian actions would be deemed as compliance.

pandorasbox1914

Hi Thirteenth tribe,

Fully agree with your post, it is funny how if you remain silent you are guilty of compliance, when they remain silent it is because others are not deserving of the truth.

What they fail to understand, is what is in the song "Silence is Golden" by The Tremeloes:

Silence is golden
But my eyes still see

They can remain silent, but others can see exactly what they are.

23

Where do I start telling a psychologist about the mental trauma I feel as a fading jw?

by Simple Minds in

i am on a pension, so i could not afford to pay for a psychologist, but my good doctor referred me to a free clinic for people on a low income, for my anxiety and depression, so i have finally got my first appointment with a psychologist since i started my fade, so where do i start trying to explain the mental trauma i feel as a fading jw?

i would appreciate your advice.

simple .

pandorasbox1914

Hi Simple Minds,

Like you I recently joined this forum after 25 years in the truth, but unlike you I haven't suffered mentally from this cult as you have. Therefore, I cannot fully understand your pain, but I do sympathize with you. All I can say is what everyone else has already suggested, just be yourself and be honest.

Any psychologist who knows what they are doing will be able to help you and ease your pain. If it helps a friend of mine had some counselling a while back it would seem that most psychologist's are fully aware of this cult and it's harmful practices.

Take care my friend and be well.