LMAO! Hum what would your b/f say if he came over for a visit w/ that in the bed.
X.
are men really this indispensable?
man-shaped pillow for solo sleeper.
by kaori hitomi in nagareyama, japan.
LMAO! Hum what would your b/f say if he came over for a visit w/ that in the bed.
X.
i note that e-watchman has just confirmed that he is not disfellowshipped, despite running an 'apostate' website and having sent 1000's of letters around the us, canada, and bethels around the world.
this from his latest mailbag questions and answers:.
"as for any judicial action taken against me, no, there was none.
I have heard it said by someone else that e-watchman could well be in league with one or more members of the Governing Body and secretly supported by prominent persons in the Watchtower Society. The fact that the legal department have advised his local elders to leave him alone could well be seen by some as evidence of that.
Well as speculations go we all can be "spies". Look, until there is hard core evidence, like photos, tapes of deals and finger prints, written deals in blood, ritual sacrifice,etc~ then it is just that speculation.
E-Watchman, like Simon, like Bk, Kent, Bill Bowen, Quotes, etc, all provide a way for us to get the information we normally would not be able to get, unless we have the pleasant task of stepped foot back into the KH's, etc.
Perhaps, the reason they have not d/f him, is to indeed make him look like a plant. To protect thier hides, ever think of that? It swings both ways.
X.
i have been invisable here of late as i have so many projects on the go.
my magazine q has taken off here in london, canada.
each month i will have an overall theme...october's is faith and we'll be dealing with several different belief systems.
Way to go Morris! This is a way for people to get the information.
X.
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
The mixed evidence of the influence of racial stereotypes calls into question their measurement and meaning. Many people don?t get that there was a veiled prejudice in what Corvin stated. Even though he used Hispanic as a term to describe the woman. He had a prejudice against her due to her religion and was angry because she had the temerity to preach back. The hatred that spewed forth came out as: She was a moron because she had a language barrier, she was stupid~ why because she took the time to try to speak to Mike? How is that not irrational? Last time, I looked they were standing in a public place. Prejudice comes in many forms. The term very, very Hispanic stood out in is diatribe against this woman. Like she should be punished for being Hispanic and a Jehovah?s Witness~ He is prejudiced on her being a JW. The rest was just icing. How is hate going to help? Is hating her going to change the facts? No.
Quote: And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses.
From my post:
If you are planting seeds do it with out the stereotypes.. or hatred. Many of us still have family in and they aren't stupid or morons, they are just very lost.
BTW, I am LATINO and was a JW or as you put it, HISPANIC JW's.
And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses.
So by that above reasoning, I am a moron also? Please clarify. Before, I take severe offense to that statement.
Just because she is Hispanic/ Latino and JW doesn't give you the right to trash her . Or those who share the same ethnic background and once shared the same religion too.
It does not mean were morons, because we once believed in something we were mislead on. What you wrote smacks of bigotry over her race and her religion. To show contempt, arrogance and superiority ~ is different than them? How so?
Sincerely,
X.
I gave you the opportunity to redeem yourself and explain. Instead I got attacked, I got excuses and no real tangible reason for this intense dislike~ except that she was a Hispanic JW and a moron. Is she responsible for what happened to your children? No. What she is responsible for is her actions and her life.
She is in bondage to a belief. I don't think anyone would listen when attacked and Mike could have easily presented his points with out attack.
Bigotry: 1 : the state of mind of a bigot 2 : acts or beliefs characteristic of a bigot. Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
You just did not attack her over, her race Corvin. You attacked her because of your anger with the witnesses. Her ethnic background was just another reason to ridicule her, because she could not speak English well, and you were pissed off over the fact that someone tried to reason and even presented her thoughts and views. Instead of looking at it as an opportunity to share, just like she did, you presented it to us all, as boasting. That this dumb woman dared speak, well hum, aren't you speaking out as well ? Why is your freedom of speech and thought more important ?
Protest the WTS, but don?t attack individual people, not everyone is a horrible person in this religion. They are just horribly mislead. You know just how hard it is to break free from it. You cannot bully them into changing their views. By attacking them you, will make them more apt to hold on to this religion, because they are being persecuted. You have to plant seeds, to make them open their eyes~give them options, as to how to get out, etc. Otherwise you will be just another nutjob, shouting at the side of the street.
Corvin you are angry ( I understand why and have been there myself). Yet lashing out at anyone and any person who has a different view, thought or feeling, is wrong. When we bring it to your attention, you project that, you are the one being attacked, others are the ones being ?hyper-sensitive?, etc. With out realizing you are being so defensive that you aren?t listening what the person is saying. In fact you are being so hypersensitive yourself, that you are blocking what the person is saying to you.
Twisting it, by claiming we are: Attacking you, not supporting you, calling you a racist, when you are being HIGHLY prejudiced and ultra bigoted.
Reacting automatically in anger and defensiveness, will not further your goals. Anger is a completely normal, usually healthy, human emotion. But when it gets out of control and turns destructive, it can lead to problems?problems at work, in your personal relationships, and in the overall quality of your life.
The instinctive, natural way to express anger is to respond aggressively. Anger is a natural, adaptive response to threats; it inspires powerful, often aggressive, feelings and behaviors, which allow us to fight and to defend ourselves when we are attacked. A certain amount of anger, therefore, is necessary to our survival.
On the other hand, we can't physically lash out at every person or object that irritates or annoys us; laws, social norms, and common sense place limits on how far our anger can take us.
People use a variety of both conscious and unconscious processes to deal with their angry feelings. The three main approaches are expressing, suppressing, and calming. Expressing your angry feelings in an assertive?not aggressive?manner is the healthiest way to express anger. To do this, you have to learn how to make clear what your needs are, and how to get them met, without hurting others. Being assertive doesn't mean being pushy or demanding; it means being respectful of yourself and others.
Unexpressed anger can create other problems. It can lead to pathological expressions of anger, such as passive-aggressive behavior (getting back at people indirectly, without telling them why, rather than confronting them head-on) or a personality that seems perpetually cynical and hostile. People who are constantly putting others down, criticizing everything, and making cynical comments haven't learned how to constructively express their anger. Not surprisingly, they aren't likely to have many successful relationships.
Logic defeats anger, because anger, even when it's justified, can quickly become irrational. So use cold hard logic on yourself. Remind yourself that the world is "not out to get you," you're just experiencing some of the rough spots of daily life.
Do this each time you feel anger getting the best of you, and it'll help you get a more balanced perspective. Angry people tend to demand things: fairness, appreciation, agreement, willingness to do things their way. Everyone wants these things, and we are all hurt and disappointed when we don't get them, but angry people demand them, and when their demands aren't met, their disappointment becomes anger and the cycle of lashing out continues.
Sometimes, our anger and frustration are caused by very real and inescapable problems in our lives. Not all anger is misplaced, and often it's a healthy, natural response to these difficulties. There is also a cultural belief that every problem has a solution, and it adds to our frustration to find out that this isn't always the case. The best attitude to bring to such a situation, then, is not to focus on finding the solution, but rather on how you handle and face the problem.
Make a plan, and check your progress along the way. Resolve to give it your best, but also not to punish yourself if an answer doesn't come right away. If you can approach it with your best intentions and efforts and make a serious attempt to face it head-on, you will be less likely to lose patience and fall into all-or-nothing thinking, even if the problem does not get solved right away.
Angry people tend to jump to?and act on?conclusions, and some of those conclusions can be very inaccurate. The first thing to do if you're in a heated discussion is slow down and think through your responses. Don't say the first thing that comes into your head, but slow down and think carefully about what you want to say. At the same time, listen carefully to what the other person is saying and take your time before answering.
Regards,
X.
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
I think living among and loving those south of the boarder for two years qualifies me to give an opinion as to what is funny or humorous about the culture.
Really.. Hum, I don?t think so. Cultures do clash, and sometimes painfully so. While it may be ?all in good? fun, it can still hurt too.
John Leguizamo is a fine example of one who laughs at his very funny hispanic friends and relatives. OMG, Dave Chappell is halarious when he points out what's funny about different ethnicities, including his own, and we all laugh too. Don't be a hypocrite. First of all, the pointing out of the differences is made in fun and pointing out the funny differences.
I don?t see John or (Juan as I call him) directly attacking a person, for being ignorant, a moron, and etc. What he says, is in good will. There is where the difference is, yours is filled with contempt and anger. So please do not try to twist this into something other, than what you said. What you said and what you could mean are two different things. The point is what you said was insensitive and rude.
For your information, Corvin~ I invited Ariel (if you don?t know who he is, then look up the Silent Lambs Vigil Articles.) to come and read, learn and perhaps find comfort. Now, how is an attack of a Hispanic/Latino woman going to make him feel? Especially since his sister, nieces, and nephew were believing JWs at the times of their murders. Were they morons too? I really don?t think what you said was harmless joking or funny, for that matter. Your generalization was very insensitive. While it is your right to free speech, I am exercising my right to tell you that you are being an insensitive prick. Clear enough for you?
What's funny about your ethnic culture? I can also laugh at my uncle who is very very filipino. He does and says things that crack me up and are completely filipino. Even his own children poke fun at him and his ways. What makes you laugh about yourself? Nothing? Hmm, I am not buying it. God, stop twisting this thing into a thing. Get off your soapbox and go after a real racist.
I am glad you have fun with your Filipino Uncle and you are able to joke about your differences in good fun. But you aren?t attacking his differences in anger and with clearly blatant contempt. That is the difference, again. You made an apology, a few posts back. Don?t undo the good will, by not realizing harm or hurt you inflicted. By not acknowledging this Corvin you are twisting this thing into a thing. Besides, if you did not want this type of ?thing? in your thread, you shouldn?t have gone there to begin with.
How about taking ownership for your words, spoken because you have some anger towards the Witnesses. That I can understand considering the circumstances we all have been through. Acknowledge that, and we can move on from this, a bit wiser for being there. Peace.
Xandria
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
Corvin,
Did you not write the words? I saw them written, it was your comment, your thoughts and feelings and I was the one who asked for your clarification on them; because they are offensive and even callous. You are responsible for what you say and do. Whatever the situation is between you and BB, is between you and BB. This has no bearing on what I said, to you. I am coming to you in the contexts of what you wrote. I am addressing you and why should that ?get out of hand?? You can speak for yourself, can you not?
You are responsible~ for what you write. I don?t care if you were sparring with BB or what ever, the words are offensive and demeaning. Please think before you type, for this is a public board made up of many wonderful people with different backgrounds and ethnicities. Bait or not, satire or sarcasm it is not acceptable to me to see this type of hatred or labeling.
I know many people who are very smart, wonderful people, color of skin should not matter. I simply will not put up with this type of b.s. I don?t care who it is. I will accept your apology and hope I do not see this again. Because I will call you on it, I put up with it growing up, from people and I will not put up with it anymore.
Sincerely,
X.
we laid low for a week from picketing the kingdom hall.
i wanted to see how things would go with the emergency hearing before i continued.
because of the pending restraining order sara applied for, i cannot go within 100 yards of her or her husband, mark.
Um Corvin:
I don't care, if she was black, brown, purple or blue and had a accent that rivaled a Scottish Burr! The point is took the time to enquire, which was an opportunity to share. Your anger seems to cloud the point, that she did not read english and was curious. Which is an opportunity, just as she thought it was an opportunity to plant a "seed". It was Mike's opportunity to plant one too.
I find your attack on her race, her ignorance and education sad.
People, who want to kill the enquirer of truth, are clearly mad. Those who want to attack anyone who questions their beliefs, rather than consider the evidence is irrational. Irrational behavior shows another difficulty involved with using intelligence. Both sides of the argument possessed the faculty, but one side or both are deluded by prejudice or deep belief. Prejudice is a desire to accept a belief for a personal reason or it is an ingrained teaching, which can be a distortion to the truth. She has a distorted truth.
If you or Mike are to there to "preach truth" you have to show tolerance and compassion, not hatred. Else you are no better than those whom you picket against. We were all there at one point and time. Your anger is a turn off, rather than a turn on. If someone approached you with bitter anger when you were a stanch JW, what would have been your first response ? Mine would have been to cling to my teachings, b/c Jehovah was testing me. It kind of defeats the purpose of picketing them, if you are going to be just like them.
If you are planting seeds do it with out the sterotypes.. or hatred. Many of us still have family in and they aren't stupid or morons, they are just very lost.
BTW, I am LATINO and was a JW or as you put it, HISPANIC JW's.
And the very very very very hispanic woman's question was extremely stupid and typical of morons who just happen to be hispanic Jehovah's Witnesses.
So by that above reasoning, I am a moron also? Please clarify. Before, I take severe offense to that statement.
Just because she is Hispanic/ Latino and JW doesn't give you the right to trash her. Or those who share the same ethnic background and once shared the same religion too. It does not mean are were morons, because we once believed in something we were mislead on. What you wrote smacks of bigotry over her race and her religion. To show contempt, arrogance and superiority ~ is different than them ? How so ?
Sincerely,
X.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35901&site=3 .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35828&site=3 .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=35861&site=3 .
I've had this one recently when I ran into someone.. " Your mother was faithful to the very end, even though she was d/fed. She would be disappointed that you have turned your back on Jehovah. Don't you want to see her in the New System?"
X..o0( Remind me again, why I don't have too much contact.)
so my wife is standing at the door, waiting for me to finish my morning ablutions so that we can go out, and she asks me to go to the door.
i met a very friendly couple who wanted to talk to me about jehovah.
i informed them that i was raised as a jehovah's witness and that i had been disfellowshipped for about (and i had to think about this) five years now.. and the dude was offended by my existence.
Good for you! I am glad you left them there gaping like a fish. They have been in control for too long, it is time they realize that there are boundaries.
X.
victory!
the court appointed attorney will be recommending to the judge the following at the hearing tomorrow morning.
unsupervised visits with mom at the children?s request only, away from her home and away from stepfather.
Way to go !
I am happy that it went so well. It is definately a VICTORY! Now your children will have some peace to grow up normal and safe. I really hope she keeps the letter of the court orders.
X.