jesus loathed the talmud and broke as many of its laws as he could on any occasion that presented itself.
so if jesus broke the laws of the talmud, wouldn't he have been disfellowshipped if he did the same thing to the watchtower.
a jehovah's witness can be disfellowshipped or disassociated if he/she breaks this rule in the elder's manual: rebellion against jehovah's organization.. what say you?.
Mp, this is a debate I don’t want to start.
Everything about Jesus character is in the Bible.
You see him as a traitor and a collaborator with the Romans, racist at the same time, promoting slavery, and not helping anyone….that’s your reading of it, sorry can not help you.
It is all there.
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
Nothing wrong with having secrets, but no need to abuse other people.
i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
True Christianity frees people and some have a problem with that.
The WT is damaging to people and societies on many different levels. If they practice occultism that would be the ultimate insult to their followers that can not even have a Sparlock.
jesus loathed the talmud and broke as many of its laws as he could on any occasion that presented itself.
so if jesus broke the laws of the talmud, wouldn't he have been disfellowshipped if he did the same thing to the watchtower.
a jehovah's witness can be disfellowshipped or disassociated if he/she breaks this rule in the elder's manual: rebellion against jehovah's organization.. what say you?.
Jesus was no traitor. He just denounced the Pharisees because they were exploiting their own people.
He did not promote anyone being the pawn of anyone, his message is a message of freedom actually, that’s why Christians started being persecuted.
If you give someone a very valuable present and they reject it, how do you feel? He did help everyone that came his way.
i think 60% think or hope it's all what it's cracked up to be and the others are just there for different reasons.. what do you think?.
Were it not for the fear of being disfellowshipped, a big number of them would just leave immediately, others just a bit later.
the wt will do endless research on the r.c.c and the faults of popes.as can be.
seen in their publication.. are not the popes and the r.cc.
humans and will make mistakes.. is it any different from god's choosen nation and all the kings and .
There are many different Christian religions, and the vast majority of them don’t make a point of antagonizing the other ones. They just go about their own business.
jesus loathed the talmud and broke as many of its laws as he could on any occasion that presented itself.
so if jesus broke the laws of the talmud, wouldn't he have been disfellowshipped if he did the same thing to the watchtower.
a jehovah's witness can be disfellowshipped or disassociated if he/she breaks this rule in the elder's manual: rebellion against jehovah's organization.. what say you?.
Jesus did follow the Law, but he put the focus on the spirit of the Law, not on the letter.
He did not go out of his way to break the rules gratuitously, just denounced when these rules were followed in a way contrary to the purpose for which they were given in the first place.
He did not condone slavery, he said love your neighbour as yourself. He also advised not to owe anything to anyone.
on another thread discussing possible changes to the nwt, the post refered to a 2nd-hand report of a co leaking possible changes to 5 verses where "loose conduct" would be replaced by "brazen conduct.
" although it is merely speculative at this point, i would like to remind those of you who did attend the 2012 dc this summer about some important evidence that supports this theory.
if the program is still available on jw.org, feel free to see this for yourselves.
What is brazen is the way they interfere in people’s lives, and as WTWizard says how they
How they use people’s belief in God, to keep them in an infantile state, depriving them of becoming the person they could have been had they had other teachers with their best interests at heart, rather than liars that just seek their own interests.
It is certainly brazen, the way they treat people that just don’t agree with the way they interpret the Bible, or how they become the judges of people’s private lives.
hold people hostage trying to prevent them from doing things to build up their souls.
my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
I don’t need to atone for what my country or my Church did in the middle ages.
I have just stated my opinion and you stated yours. The difference is that you got personal and rude, so don’t pretend to give me lessons on Christianity or anything else because I wont take them from you. Take care rbih.
my italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
Mp, should we conclude America is an enemy of the slave abolition as it had slaves until not that long ago, and it took a civil war to end the practice?
I don’t see the Church owning any slaves nowadays, on the contrary I see it defending human rights. Can’t say the same of her enemies.
I am going to leave this subject now, as it is more than clear for anyone that wants to see it.
