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  Introducing Mrs Cedars...

  by cedars in

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  i just thought you should know that mrs cedars has finally taken the plunge and joined the forum.

  she was able to log on for the first time yesterday.. though we both "awakened" at different stages, mrs cedars was very supportive and non-judgmental when i first began exploring my beliefs from a critical standpoint.

  she is currently in the process of reading crisis of conscience and aquainting herself with some of the facts of witness history that were hitherto unknown.

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  Hi Mrs Ceders

  Welcome to the board , looking forward to swapping some recipes over a or

  Ammo

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  Why get "personal" when discussing a topic?

  by Terry in

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  trading insults happens among kids all the time.. intellectual development hasn't progressed to the point where they can present contrary ideas and opinions with persuasive appeal to reasons, facts and logic.. "i know you are; but what am i?".

  "your momma's so fat....".

  so, they fall back on childish mocking, provocation and personal attack.. as we grow older and have more education and sophistication our minds should mature---or so you'd think!.

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  Great topic Terry, and one thats overdue in discussion, yes we all do have to be a little more reasonable it seems to be a dirty word in this world, if you try to speak from the heart without all the bravado its almost looked upon as weak, your soft, I have never understood that.

  There are some people here that you can almost see 'high fivin" it when they all gather to ridicule a poster, and yes everyone should show a little respect, calling a poster a nutjob, or mindrot, or woo filled and ready for the rubberoom is not respect, saying it over and over is not respect, in fact if you did it anywhere else in this world you may find yourself picking your teeth up off the floor, or have a harrasment case against you.

  There are some very intelligent (in some ways) people here but that does not give anyone the monopoly on being an arsehole.

  I think if this enviroment was a little less hostile, there would be alot more topics posted,not just believer/unbeliever rants. I agree with what others have posted here and on other threads about being hesitant to start a thread or post, it just seems as though if you are not ridiculed for your thoughts on said topic, you are put down by the way you have spelt something or phrased something, I got bagged for asking someone if they where angry at god,apparently its a stupid question to ask, the person replied in a manner thats enabled me to understand them more and where they are coming from,it also has made me a lot more open to what that poster has to say instead of just skipping over there post, or thinking here they go again. That poster who's views are nearly a 180* to me I thought well, I will now consider way more about what they have to say, ALL because they displayed a bit of courtesy. Annnd to my surprise alot of what they had to say I completely agreed with, I read what they had to say with opened eyes and heart, ready to take what they said on board instead of shutting down to that individual. I have alot of respect for that kind of attitude.

  I find it amazing, those individuals that are so offended by such trivial things have no problem pointing the finger and jeering for the next 40 odd pages its unbelievable.

  I no longer want to be apologetic about being 'thinskinned' if thats what some want to call it, to those I suggest this, try just TRY one day on one thread to be reasonable, not putting people down for the sake of it, but try and quit with the insults create an enviroment where people are wanting to communicate, all people not just ones with an aggresive/defensive intentions. You'll be amazed at the response, its ok to have your thinking challenged and be uncomfortable in that way, but I can only speak for me here, I KNOW for a fact that I can take alot more in on said subject and consider ALL sides more if people are reasonable, the message which can be very valid, even the truth in some cases is lost amidst the abuse.

  I'm such a crap typer, this threads probably sorted and everyones kissed and made up,-which is a good thing, but I will post this as its very close to my heart.

  No one person here or anywhere on this earth has all the answers,or even most, NO ONE can be 100% sure about anything regarding this life or what happens when we die, it would go along way to a less hostile enviroment if we all remembered it. Myself included.
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  Are we completely sure Trans people don't just have a mental disorder?

  by Lore in

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  so i thought i was a pretty accepting person.

  sure i grew up in a bigoted cult who hates gay people.. now i'm an atheist who has no reason to care about anyones sexual prefferences.. .

  but i've watched inverviews of trans people.

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  NIce Dawn

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  I told my daughter I was leaving "the truth" this weekend.

  by whathappened in

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  last week, i told you i was going to tell my daughter that i was leaving the truth this weekend and you all gave me sound advice.

  but, i cannot keep a secret this heavy from the person i love most on this earth, my only daughter, who is beautiful inside and out.. well, i have always had an open and honest relationship with my daughter, and i guess it paid off.

  this weekend i visited my daughter (who lives in another state) and i told her i was leaving "the truth.

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  all the very best to you

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  "Amish - Out of Order"...Have you watched this show???

  by freshstart in

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  it comes on the national geographic channel and it's about young people who choose to leave the amish faith/way of life, the backlash from their families, and their adjustment to the "outside" world.

  it's fascinating for me to watch.

  some of the experiences are unique to amish, but so much of it is similar to what people feel when they decide they no longer want to be witnesses.

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  There was something like that a couple of weeks here in QLD on the abc.

  It reminded me quite abit of JW's and their superstitions, they even had to follow a certain same color for their buggies,( depending where they lived) same-approved lengths on their braces, and buttons or clips. Lots more little things totally irrelevant to anything, just controlling.

  The 2 young guys most of this was about and their famillies had been shunned, they had questioned the elders and their teachings as far as hypocrisy to what the bible really said and so on, One of them had a sick daughter just diagnosed with leukimia, they were very matter of fact that if she died than that was what the lord wanted, but the rest of the family that did shun them also went and cleaned the house, mowed the lawns and left food. All with a quiet humility, sad you could see they loved them and felt for them but the 'rules' did'nt allow for contact.

  It made me really understand that whether your in with Amish, Scientologists, JW's Mormans whatever, it really is a crock of highly organised/controlled BS.
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  Engaged Governing body member reverses ruling on oral sex before his honeymoon! Good news!

  by Witness 007 in

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  as we heard my aussie drinking mate mate geoff jackson of the governing body is engaged to a woman less the half his age......ozzie ozzie ozzie....oooooy oooooy ooooy!!!!!!

  before we take him on his "aussie bucks night" and leave him handcuffed to a sheep....i have great news.. he told me a new watchtower is coming out next month saying: "elders can no longer police any sexual practices between a husband and wife.." {he then winked and threw me another fosters beer} go you dog yeaaaaaaaah!

  just in time for his honeymoon.

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  Whooo Hooo Gympie Muster!!!!!
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  Why do you Still believe in a god?

  by mrbunyrabit in

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  if i may ask, for those on this site, who still believe in a god in their own way... why do you still believe in a god?.

  since every thing in the bible can be shot down with reason, why would you still believe in a god?.

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  OGD

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  NICE

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  Positive energy needed

  by JeffT in

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  about three years ago my wife went through a bout of problems with her eyes, double vision, trouble focusing and the like.

  after weeks of going to specialists etc no one knew for sure what it was and after a few weeks it went away by itself.

  a couple of weeks ago it came back along with some other symptoms, notably weakness and pain in her legs.

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  Hi Jeff,

  sorry to hear that

  to your wife and much positive/healing energy as well.

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  wearing pants not a "rule"??

  by leftchica in

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  But is advised if out in public.
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

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  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  Its not just atheists that would get pissed off at missing out on

  'BEER BATTERED ONION RINGS'

  hope you're getting your fill these days, maybe you could have them with devilled sausages !

  Ummm Back to thread now...