Posts by Pubsinger

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My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

by GiftsinMen in

another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

Pubsinger

Well in fairness I'd say people are cautious as not everyone here is as they appear. Much like life in general 😉

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My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

by GiftsinMen in

another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

It's a bit to do with forum history. New posters have in the past solicited for money, or told all sorts of wild stories (not in book form tho lol!) One even invented an imaginary partner who then got 'terminally ill' causing much upset.

So many are cautious about new posters 😊

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

Pubsinger

Well if we accept what Vinman has subsequently said, that he was being sarcastic and making a point albeit not very clearly, I think his point stands.

To call an atheist 'deluded' would be an attack on the person not on his thoughts, position or belief.

Call a person of faith deluded and it is 'acceptable'. As Island Man's post demonstrates.

I'm just making a point too. Possibly the same one as Vinman lol

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

Pubsinger

Ha typical! My post started a new page on the thread lol

Top of page 3 for Island Man's post.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

Pubsinger

Well if you look at the top of this page of the thread you will see a post by Island Man in support of Ray Franz but it his first sentence he calls him a 'deluded theist'!!

Is that a term of endearment?!

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

Pubsinger

I agree with Vinman. Although I too didn't realise the point he was trying to make either until I read the whole thread with his added comments.

So stop having a go and read before you post. He doesn't think Ray Franz was an idiot or a moron.

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My Book, 'Gifts in Men', by Patricia F.Sadio

by GiftsinMen in

another member on here announced the publication of my new book "gifts in men, a heavier responsibility" a couple of months ago and some of you asked who i was as to my authenticity and motives.

i have had an amazing reaction to my book even from jws who know me and my story but were still shocked at the details.

i was not raised a jw, not disfellowshipped nor disassociated and loved being a regular pioneer, serving in uk and ireland.

Pubsinger

I'm a long time poster here and I can 'vouch' for Trish. I know her personally and was in the same Cong for a while. We left independently and unknown to each other until we met up again a few weeks ago. I have read the book too 😊

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Guardians of Doctrine.

by Pubsinger in

i'm still working my way through the videos..... this has probably been covered before but had anyone else ever heard them use this phrase before?

not me... but it's a clever and as per usual misleading choice of words.. if they are indeed guardians of doctrine, they are very poor ones.

if so jws would believe the same thing now that they did in 1879 and we all know that's not true.

Pubsinger

I'm still working my way through the videos....

This has probably been covered before but had anyone else ever heard them use this phrase before? Not me... But it's a clever and as per usual misleading choice of words.

If they are indeed Guardians of Doctrine, they are very poor ones. If so JWs would believe the same thing now that they did in 1879 and we all know that's not true. Also the word 'doctrine' is misleading. It is not so much JW doctrine that changes. It is INTERPRETATION that changes to match their plans and intention.

In a way the Commission was caught out by this phrase and claim. As it has never appeared before to my knowledge in any literature or correspondence, and certainly is not in common JW usage, the Commission couldn't prepare and disect that claim, showing it to be untrue and yet another lie.

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Article- Child checks for all religious leaders, inquiry recommends

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/in-depth/child-checks-for-all-religious-leaders-inquiry-recommends/story-fngburq5-1227486717033.

by: rick morton .

from: the australian .

Pubsinger

They will try to say this doesn't apply to them as they don't have 'children's work'

They will resist/refuse to do it because despite everything Geoffrey Jackson said they still have no concept of 'Best Practise' and they still think they are above the law.

While I deplore Jackson's motives in making the statement (a backhanded insinuation that it was the authorities fault) I agree with him that the ONLY thing which will get them to change is MANDATORY REPORTING.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

Pubsinger

Agreed. Totally shocking statement to make. It is indeed presumptuous. And presumptuous is exactly what these 7 men are. They are the 7 men who now claim that title for themselves, no longer even paying any lip service to the notion that the remnant of the 144000 are part of 'God's Spokesman'.

I left 16 years ago because I could no longer accept their claim to be God's exclusive channel and mouthpiece. If 7 men had been making that claim back then I may have left earlier.

He hasn't even got the balls to say in public what he claims in print.

Pathetic.