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i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
Parker,
A curious blend of conservatism and liberalism that is me ☺️. I would not include my understanding of Adam and Eve in the liberal. I question that a strong literalism is the intended meaning 🤔
I think God spoke to Israel in different ways. When they were a nation of warriors, God spoke to them as such. When they were subject to the world's superpower in a different way
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
Parker,
I dont know what progressive Christian means. I just recognise a lot in the Bible is not literal. Just look at the old testament prophets. Also the Bible reader should try to understand time and culture of the stuff written. Audience relevance.
Slimboyfat,
I think you can say genocide was the ancient norm. It was about making desirable lebensraum for the winners in the evolutionary struggle. Christianity came along and promoted unseen ethics. But not without constant opposition from the devil (s). Now we live in an exciting time where cultural marxism and totallitarianism is strangulating Europe and a small opposition is rising up. Will the things Christianity build up survive or will mankind go back to the wolf pack life style
i was six, not given any choice.
i remember being in the old kh, and my dad told me the brothers wanted to talk to me in the back...i was terrified.
i actually thought they knew i didn’t want to be a dub, my dad told them to just add me as a publisher, so no back room meeting.
I remember I was asked out to field service several times as teen. But my mother protected me from some of it, especially when the one asking was a woman in her 20s or 30s. She might have suspected a honeytrap. She was very aware that jw baptism was about enrolling in the jw workforce and being more subject to elder authority
it is illogical to say that “jesus was anointed as christ”.
that’s like saying that “jesus was anointed as anointed”.
the question that needs to be asked is: “what was jesus anointed as?”.
Jesus does not mean Christ ☺️. The man Jesus was simply annoited as King like Israel kings of old. But his Kingdom is not of this world
could you guys believe this über borg 'friend' ?.
he says that babylon has fallen because all of the coronavirus restrictions (and the resultant less revenue) are gonna destroy them symbolically.
so he thinks this are the last, of the last, of the last days.
Yes you must not run ahead of the old slave, that is just mean
could you guys believe this über borg 'friend' ?.
he says that babylon has fallen because all of the coronavirus restrictions (and the resultant less revenue) are gonna destroy them symbolically.
so he thinks this are the last, of the last, of the last days.
It had so come to pass, that our city Jerusalem had arrived at a higher degree of felicity than any other city under the Roman government, and yet at last fell into the sorest of calamities again (Josephus, Wars 1:4)
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
There is no way we can understand how there has always been "something". Philosophers of science may try to cook up an explenation. The Bible certainly does not.
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
I can well imagine Adam and Eve represents mankind's experience with the effects of sin and loss. Most of us experience a fall in some sense. It is important to notice they were not perfect or knew what they got into with that serpent, knowing not good and evil. They had to experience it. A story has to start somewhere and in the Bible it starts with these archetypes representing man. Perhaps the preceding creation out of chaos represents some earlier civilisation and perhaps Adam and Eve also represents a community following that.
i'm new to the forum.
i'm an ex-jw who actually faded from jws.
i'm here to drop by every once in a while to ask a question or two.
Hehe, anyone ask a Bible related question and behold the atheist storm from the Netherworld. We know not all ancient people believed in a literal Adam and Eve. The gnostics is one example. But it also has to do with whether the traditional literalist persuasion is true or not. Reading much prophecy becomes quite difficult if you insist on literal interpretations. Of course with the advent of scientific theories about man, it becomes even harder to argue for a literal talking snake and magical trees. I remember my first biblical inclination before even believing was that Genesis 1 is poetry. I sticked on to that ever since adding perhaps John Calvin's view that it is a simple tale for all, the simple minded included so they could get the message too 😉😁
now today this is of course a non-issue.
the wt has embraced the big bang/old earth etc just not evolution.
in fact the creator book has some decent info.. however i have a good copy of the 1958 paradise book.
QuVidiot, good point. Creationists of all sorts do that as though he could not have quoted a symbolic or prophetic story
