If you are going to respond, this is a great response, in my opinion. You may or may not want to take Bible Student's advice about the paragraph to eliminate. Student does make a good point. I think it is good either way. You know your sister, not us, and you are the one who will have to deal with any outcome.
ruderedhead
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Epic FAIL! :( My sister is gone from me.
by Faithful Witness ingot this email from my sister today.
there is a lot of back story, and this isn't a surprise.
it will be interesting to see how it affects the rest of the family, if they hear about it or not.
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More indoctrination of young people.
by quellycatface injust come back from having coffee at a local cafe.
saw one of the sisters in my ex-kh having a study with a young girl (say 17 or so).
i think they were looking at the "draw close to weasel head book.
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ruderedhead
Why do you think they were at a cafe? Perhaps her parents disapprove of her studying with the witnesses?
If you ever see them again, maybe you can walk over and introduce yourself? Tell the 17 y.o. a afew things about the witnesses she won't get from the adultress. False doctrine, shunning, your story? Maybe you could save her from this cult. 17 is a very vulnerable age.
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Dumb ass cultish elders
by Crazyguy inok so i'm not officaily da'd as of yet and the elders (2) come over to my house and want to talk with my wife.
so i'm thinking there looking for more info on me and ask her to go sit with them in their car since there was no place for privacy at my house.
then a few minutes later my wife calls me and asks me to meet them out at the car and they drive around and i get in.
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ruderedhead
Crazy, Searcher is so right! Please STOP PLAYING BY THEIR RULES. The only one you need to use here is to exercise your headship. Please tell them that they are NOT to speak to your wife without you present, and tell them in your wife's presence. Inform her she is not to talk to them without you present.
Why on Earth did they need privacy to tell your wife they thought your child had been molested? That is YOUR child as well. You don't play games with something like that! She went out to their car? That is just insane! Read your post. Imagine what normal people would think if they read something like that! They'd think what a bunch of nut jobs! Please consider putting your foot down (gently), and stopping the B.S. If you're gentle but firm, it should stop the crap.
I hope things lighten up for you soon. Husbands and wives should not have to deal with this kind of outside interference.
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After 44 years I finally found and spoke to my old prison buddy!
by Terry ini have had very few mentors in my life.
i love each of them dearly.. one such was a man a bit older than me named tollie padget.. .
tollie was the rarest of rare birds.
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ruderedhead
I'm sorry for your loss. It has to be heartbreaking for you. But you still have your good memories of your friendship. I hope you will still cherish them.
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My little sister
by Nika Bee inmy little sister is 14 years younger than me.
she was always special to me, i took care of her, when my mother was working, i carried her around, i comforted her.
we are very similar in our interests for music and literature.. she is in secondary school, an unbaptised publisher.. since i study in the us, we only see each other about once a year.
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ruderedhead
Sleep on it, write down what you would like to say to her, look it over, add or delete. As others have said, let her know you will always love her unconditionally, just as Christ did/does. The people who she sees every day are influencing her, ask some questions. I hope this all works out.
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Epic FAIL! :( My sister is gone from me.
by Faithful Witness ingot this email from my sister today.
there is a lot of back story, and this isn't a surprise.
it will be interesting to see how it affects the rest of the family, if they hear about it or not.
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ruderedhead
Awww, I'm sorry your sister is being this way, Faithful. It sucks, but it's the way she's been programmed, and she's probably getting advice/"encouragement" from those in her congregation, possibly including the elders.
I'm going to go against the tide here and suggest that you NOT respond. You are afraid that she might start to turn your Mom against you, so you need to back off for now, and talk to Mom. Maybe when you're talking to her about the situation between your sister & you, you could gently bring up that your family have NEVER BEEN WITNESSES. And that your sister's behavior certainly does not make it seem like a loving organization, with warm, loving Christian people. Instead it looks like a punitve, mean one with mean, punitive people. Think like we do, or we discard you! A poor witness, and when people hear about how you're being treated by them, they certainly want nothing to do with the witnesses! I know you would do this with love and kindness, not being accusatory in any way. I wouldn't make it a long conversation, as you don't want to cause your Mom too much anxiety over the controversy between her daughters. Have a great day, I hope this doesn't go on too long. Who knows, maybe this will be a catalyst to help your Mom see the light? Keep researching the witnesses and their doctrines so you can answer questions she may have later on.
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What Drew You To The Witnesses?
by minimus ini did believe for the first 30 years of my life that they had been picked by jehovah god to dispense the truth as best as imperfect humans could.
then, everything became questionable.
i had read anti jw books in the past but franz's books really got to me but not immediately.
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ruderedhead
The woman who became my study conductor was a pitbull. If you answered the door, she was not going to give up. I thought it must be God's organization if she kept coming back when I was looking for some answers. I didn't even like her, and her kids were brats!
I always questioned the Trinity, but had never asked a pastor, so their teaching/belief on that subject was was a major thing for me. It's usually more than one thing, tho, if your not a born-in, don't you think?
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I got my money back
by Faithful Witness ini posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
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ruderedhead
You're not making a fool of yourself, Faithful, you are simply looking for answers from your sister. Accepting one package and refusing another is a little confusing for the sender. Your email was simply conveying that, without being mean or rude. You sent your love. Now perhaps it is time to let it go for this year if she doesn't respond.
Next year perhaps you can send the packages the day after Christmas, so the children still receive something, like normal kids, but I think they might accept them if it's AFTER the holiday. Worth a try for the kid's sake. Keep being the good hearted person you obviously are. You are setting a great example not only for your own children, but hers as well. And for others who are aware of this situation. All the best to you.
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Elders and spying eyes
by Crazyguy inis it normal for the elders in your congregation to spy on you through your wife?
texting her to see whats up with you and what your doing or saying etc.
using her as the in house spy???
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ruderedhead
That is so messed up! Others ahve given some wise advice, don't know if it will work (theocratic warfare), but you have to try. Maybe cite scripture along with asserting your headship role?
I don't know if this is possible, but can you go to a store that is a provider for your service, (say Verizon, or whatever you have), and ask if there is a way you can disable the texting function on your wife's phone? That would put a stop to the texting, at least.
And definately go to the CO with proof that these men are texting/calling your wife. Have a bit of fun with it. Tell him you suspect they might actually be romantically interested in her, otherwise why all the calls/texts trying to "get" you? and that while you have told her they must contact you,not her, she and they have ignored that, and are thus ignoring your headship role, thus hurting your relationship with your wife. Might turn the tables a bit!
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I got my money back
by Faithful Witness ini posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
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ruderedhead
You sent them at the same time via the same delivery service, correct? Why not contact the delivery service to see why they were undeliverable? There were some serious problems with UPS & FED-EX this season due to the huge volumes being moved. Maybe the problem was on their part? Just a thought. If they were refused, you know what they will accept now, and I hope you'll do that next time for the children's sake. Happy New Year! You have such a good heart, Faithful!