Posts by Drearyweather

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Did God know adam and eve would sin?

by gavindlt in

to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

Drearyweather

How can God choose what not to know without first knowing it in order to make the choice?

I think its more about the ability to know. Like having the key to someone's hotel room, but choosing not to use it to see whats happening inside the room.

Where does the Bible say Adam and Eve were created perfect?

Its more or less concluded from Paul's passages in Romans Chapter 5, where he states how sin entered the world through Adam's disobedience and death through it, and how Jesus' act of justification can mean everlasting life for all. This alludes to the point that there was a time when there was no sin, (means perfection - relative, not absolute) and hence no death.

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Can't the "slave" make up its mind?

by BoogerMan in

w54 4/1 p. 222 par.

27 - 1919. w63 4/1 p. 202 par.

5 - 1919. w65 7/1 p. 393 par.

Drearyweather

Not sure if you are reading the articles right or just isolating paragraphs from multiple watchtowers. The JW's see two fulfillments in all prophecies from Isaiah and this teaching has at least remained consistent since 1954.

First Fulfillment:

The nation was Israel (physical Israel) was born in the Sinai wilderness and was crushed in 607 when Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem. In fulfillment of Isaiah 66:8, the nation was reborn in 537 BCE when King Cyrus released the Jews and the worship in Jerusalem began.

Larger fulfillment:

In the modern day, the new nation (spiritual Israel) was born in 33 CE during the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, when the Jews were rejected and the Christian congregation became the new spiritual Israel. However, it was overpowered by the "weeds" of Christendom and was reborn in 1919 when the anointed was released from Babylonian captivity.

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Dumbing Down?

by LostintheFog1999 in

omg!.

have you seen the latest wt society's way of engaging with their audience?

cartoon bible stories.

Drearyweather

This is not a new release. It was released 10 years back in 2013 as a set of 25 Illustrated Bible Stories for JW children. On the website its under the section Children, placed along with other Caleb and Sophia videos.

A letter accompanied this release encouraging JW parents to study these with their children during their Family worship sessions. My congregation's elders printed out these comic stories, spiral binded them and gave it each family head which had children.

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the slaves might be revolting

by pepperheart2 in

on the watchtower website it says that most of the work that will be done fishkill will be out sourced to non jws .i thought that jws always used to build everything them selves.

this might explain what happend to ramapo they put an appeal out for free labour and people said no .

Drearyweather

Outside contractors have always been used in WT construction projects, even in Warwick.

At least in India, all the bethel facilities and Kingdom halls in the past 35 years have been built by outside contractors with the interiors done by JW's. This was because of the local prevailing laws.

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NWPublisher app

by Rattigan350 in

i heard on the meeting about apps called nwpublisher and cartsmart.

new world publisher (nw publisher) is a free apple ios and google android app created by jehovah’s witnesses for jehovah’s witnesses.

congregation publishers can install new world publisher on their mobile devices and be more united and connected with their congregation.. cartsmart was built to streamline the way we schedule our public witnessing shifts.

Drearyweather

Its an app created by a team of JW's, but not affiliated with the organization itself. Many congregation elders use it as it makes it easy to create schedules tabulate reports and manage territory records. I have used it myself and have encouraged many congregations to do so.

Jehovah help us all. This religion is not what we've grown up in is totally unrecognizable.

why? You preferred the old way of using paper records and excel sheets to do the work? If you have younger elders, they would obviously prefer this app over paper records.

I have uninstalled this app, unless someone knows some ids and pins?

These ID's and pins would be available only if your elders decided to use the app for your congregation. My congregation BOE uses this app and had sent the ID's and PINs to congregation members to join in the app. When I was the secretary, the app saved 90% of my time as it auto-generated student assignments based on the assigment history and generated slips and automatically sent it to the student's whatsapp and email ID's.

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New Educational Center in Brazil and New Support Center of JW's in New York

by Drearyweather in

Drearyweather

They're laying off Bethelites.

Not sure. In 2022, globally they had 1,000 more bethelites than in 2021.

So they're building another complex besides the movie studio??!!!

Yes, based on what I know from a Bethelite friend, they have purchased 2 more properties the size of Warwick in the US. Also, each country will have its own Patterson style educational centre (separate from the country's Bethel), like the one they recently constructed in Brazil. All schools will be conducted in these centres and students will stay in that property and not in the residential homes of JW's.

While we see a lot of KH selling going on in the US, on the other side a lot of property is also being purchased in the US and around the world. Its not an American religion anymore, so no need to have everything in the US. If the HQ in the US collapses, the work will continue from elsewhere.

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New Educational Center in Brazil and New Support Center of JW's in New York

by Drearyweather in

Drearyweather

Further education

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

i just saw on a video that there has been a change about further education.

here is a screenshot of a letter that went to all elders.

i am an elder but i don’t remember this one, perhaps it is only for some areas?.

Drearyweather

The letter is bogus, I confirmed and elders have not received any such letter.

While higher education is discouraged, however, if an elder or anyone in his family pursues higher education, this doesn't automatically lead to his deletion. His qualifications are "reviewed", as in, it is seen if he is still fulfilling all his other jobs as an elder and is allowed to stay if his education is not coming in between his responsibilities.

In my congregation, all the elders are raised in the truth, are university graduates, and are well-off financially. Even the smarter ones who did not pursue higher education are doing well in their businesses as making a good income is not completely dependent on being college graduated.

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Where is Tony?

by Athanasius in

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on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

Drearyweather

I knew about one house. Can someone please tell me about the second house.

Two weeks after Morris stopped serving in the GB, the WT bought a house for him in the Lumberton area. On the same day, two or three blocks to the left the WT bought another house.

While the name of the grantee for the first house is Morris and his wife, the grantee for the second house is the WT itself, so its not clear for whom it is bought for.

Rest all what you hear over here are speculations.

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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

by Athanasius in

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the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

in my dreams i saw the carts.

they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

Drearyweather

Actually, the change in field service requirements doesn't make a massive change in the JW world. Those who were not serious enough in the past will continue to remain so, albeit they don't have to fake a number for their reports again. Die-hard JW's will continue their work as is or join the Aux pioneer or Reg pioneer ranks if they want to report their numbers.