I used to squirm when with groups of witnesses on nights out in one particular country where the national anthem is played at the end of the night.
We looked like a bunch of ignorant disrespectful ass holes as we sat there like stone faced prats.
we are currently living in a country where at the cinema the national anthem is played before the start of the movie and it is law that you stand.
does anyone know what current jw thinking is on this?
i know there has been various changes over the years.
I used to squirm when with groups of witnesses on nights out in one particular country where the national anthem is played at the end of the night.
We looked like a bunch of ignorant disrespectful ass holes as we sat there like stone faced prats.
we are currently living in a country where at the cinema the national anthem is played before the start of the movie and it is law that you stand.
does anyone know what current jw thinking is on this?
i know there has been various changes over the years.
So according to the GB branch correspondence guidelines.
1. You can fly the national flag of the kingdom hall if the body of elders conscientiously agree to this.
2. You can stand for a national anthem as long as you don't sing or hold your hand on your heart
I really have to laugh. Most witnesses have no idea where they stand on a lot of things 🤔
in his book crisis of conscience, raymond franz likened the governing body to the proverbial 'iron fist in a velvet glove'.
this would seem harsh if it weren't for the fact that there is ample proof that their policies and teachings have caused much pain amongst the friends.
for example, many families have been torn apart through their shunning policy.
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Yes Ted Jaracz was a very humble man even in the face of satanic opposition!!
in his book crisis of conscience, raymond franz likened the governing body to the proverbial 'iron fist in a velvet glove'.
this would seem harsh if it weren't for the fact that there is ample proof that their policies and teachings have caused much pain amongst the friends.
for example, many families have been torn apart through their shunning policy.
In his book crisis of conscience, Raymond Franz likened the Governing Body to the proverbial 'Iron fist in a velvet glove'. This would seem harsh if it weren't for the fact that there is ample proof that their policies and teachings have caused much pain amongst the friends. For example, many families have been torn apart through their shunning policy. Or not being allowed to question anything they have written without the fear of possibly facing a judicial.
So my question is this! With so much bad press and criticism against them today, do you think the GB will EVER humble themselves as Jesus admonishes his followers at Matthew 20: 20-28?
Or
will they continue their hard-line 'Iron fist in velvet glove' approach toward the friends.
it has been a while since i've posted, i think its because i have finally gotten some peace and quiet as far as harassment from the jw elders.. my step father, the one who reported me to the elder police for a sinful act invited me to lunch today.. it has been almost a year since the incident, we have talked here and there, it has been just casual though.
he says he is in town for work and asked if i would like to meet up for lunch, i couldn't think of any excuses so i agreed.. i hope it goes well, hope that we don't go into the jw nonsense.
hope he doesn't bring elders with him, am i paranoid or what?
Hi raven,
I think quite a few witnesses are flouting this cruel man made policy and can see beyond the BS they are fed by the GB. Best of luck to you.
an excerpt from plato's republic, the 'allegory of the cave' is a classic commentary on the human condition.
it is a story of open-mindedness and the power of possibility.. .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69f7ghasodm.
...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
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I would ask them if they actually have a heart!
for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?
i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.
it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .
Great point Schnell
'And then you realize you're stuck.....'
Yes....when you realise you are STUCK!!. That's is the dilemma for hundreds of thousands of JWs active, inactive or faded.
'Stuck' in a high control religion that uses emotional blackmail to keep you in. Disgusting!
has anybody else noticed that almost all the jdubs are super arrogant?
i mean even from just the basic ones to especially the elders and the overseers omg.
they act like they are so high and mighty that you should just worship them.
I attended an event in which a third were family, a third friends of the family and a third were witnesses. Who do you think stood out as most reserved!
To be fair 5 or 6 Witnesses made an effort 'to mix', but most generally stayed in their seats 'all night' without making an effort to talk to others In a part of the world where I am from where the culture is to talk to anyone and everyone, the witnesses looked out of place in their reserved (afraid to mix with worldly people) way.
i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.
out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.
for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.
There has been quite a drop in attendance In the congregations in our area