Ole Fred Price sort of resembles ole Sadam Husein of Iraq.
Wonder if they are related? Nah.
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Fred Price a Jehovah's Witness????
by JT infor years i have seen this guy on tv i recall going out to la for a dc and his church was located in the territory of the bethelites family i stayed with and we laughed at how he was getting over on folks, just taking their money.
and now i learn that he got his early training from the jehovahs witnesses.
yes i think fred price is my new idol.
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One Helluva Surprise
by out4good3 inso i'm having a get together for my family.
the "pit" is going, the suds are flowing, and the sound from the tv permeates the air.
i look over and i notice that i've carelessly left my laptop in a place where it's easily accessible.
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Wow Outforgood
That must have been a wonderful feeling as well as one of relief.
I still have relatives in the org and have not had much success with them. I would love to have something like that occur. I think if one of them did as your bro inlaw did the others would maybe take a look at things.
Well there is still hope I guess.
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Report on news coverage in DALLAS!!!!
by Jesika inwell, all i can say is wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they have been preparing everyone by way on tv and radio on the sexual abuse in the jw religion.
they had a small piece on the 6 o'clock news with a small interview with bill bowen.
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Thank you Jesika.
I have printed this papers statements and will send it to all the papers and TV stations in this area. Maybe that will stir up some interest in this area.
Up to date there has been nothing in the local media. Idaho.
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Long assemblies
by freedom96 inthere have been a couple of postings lately about long assemblies.. does anyone remember these, or maybe even attended them?.
i was just a young child in the early 70's and something tells me i remember a long assembly, but don't remember if it was 8 days.. how long were they exactly, and what times.
what the hell did they talk about???.
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Hello 51785.
I also was at the 1963 assy. I also remember the Billy Graham crusade etc. I also recall getting all of my clothes stolen out of my car. They broke the window and stole all of mine and did not touch my young wifes clothes at all.
How did you happen to end up in the UK? That is a long way from So. California.
As an after thought, it was only 4 yrs. later that this young wife I mentioned, walked off and left me and our 4 young children and wasn't seen for 17 yrs. Marrying in the org doesn't guarantee anything.
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Long assemblies
by freedom96 inthere have been a couple of postings lately about long assemblies.. does anyone remember these, or maybe even attended them?.
i was just a young child in the early 70's and something tells me i remember a long assembly, but don't remember if it was 8 days.. how long were they exactly, and what times.
what the hell did they talk about???.
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Hey Mulan.& Makena.
I was in NY assy in 1953 also. Only I was 17 a the time. Yikes I am even older.
I recall being so damned tired of the assy talks on the last 2 or 3 days I could not wait to get away.
I lived in San Diego at the time and the drive there and back was enough to wear anyone out. Then 8 days of nonstop drivel.
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How long are people remembered?
by joelbear in.
unless you are famous for something how long are you really remembered?.
maybe you are remembered at most by your grandchildren, but then your presence in the universe is gone.. so, really, what difference does it make whether you die in your 40's or your 70's, your memory simply lingers another 30 years at most.
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thank you Dannybear.
I sure hope it helped some.
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Forbidden Pleasures ......
by BobsGirl inthis morning on the way to work, i burst into song.
not just any song ... but the heretofore forbidden "star spangled banner".
i just felt like singing and i wanted to sing something challenging and it seemed like the perfect choice.
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Oh Boy Oh Boy,
I was up for jury duty and accepted.
Sang the star spangled banner.
Recited the pledge of allegiance AND saluted the flag.
I am so wicked and love it!
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How long are people remembered?
by joelbear in.
unless you are famous for something how long are you really remembered?.
maybe you are remembered at most by your grandchildren, but then your presence in the universe is gone.. so, really, what difference does it make whether you die in your 40's or your 70's, your memory simply lingers another 30 years at most.
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Hey Joelbear.
Still down in the depths huh. Feel useless and empty. Filled with anger. Hate a few people for what they did. Oh yeah I almost forgot that goddamned black weight in the solar plexis and chest. Feel like bawling your head off. Scream and curse a little and it does not help. Think of turning to those who were your friends for some help and know they won't even be there for you. Then there is that pain. Different from any other. Can't describe it really. But god it hurts! Oh yeah curse and scream at God and Christ for not helping either.There is that odd confused feeling. Can't quite put the day together or get anything completed.
Yeah I been there done that.
I realized that there was no one here to help me, NO ONE.
I was 55 yrs old. Just lost everything thanks to the wbts and my ex. Yes I mean everything.
What do I do now? Ending it all seemed to be an answer. I plotted the way and the place I would do it.
Then I did some thinking on the matter. I really did not want to let my ex and the wbts have any power over me. But they did. They were partly responsible for causing things that put me in this position. I knew they would not grieve over my death. I knew they would use it to keep my kids in the cult. I knew they would slander my name. I knew that others would grieve and maybe acept the wbts teaching that this is what happens to non believers , not us.
I knew this would PROOVE THAT I WAS WEAK in the eyes of some others.
I decided to get help and was told to remove anything in my life that caused any doubts or feelings of guilt, or of not measuring up to the demands of others. One of things I did was to read and find information that I used to destroy the sick cult beliefs of the wbts that still lingered in my mind. Also that since this depression was caused over a long period of time, it would take a period of two to five years to overcome it.
I did this and it was one hell of a struggle. I still have times of depression but have been off meds for 8 yrs now.
I am so glad that I did. I have at last some true friends. I have at last a true loving relationship. I have at last FREEDOM from the meds. the memories. the griefs, the self shame, at last a peaceful life.
It was hard work and it took a while, but man It was so worth it.
Joelbear I have nothing more to send you. I don't know of any quick fix. All I can tell you is, if you succeed in overcoming the depression, life can be wonderful. It will be well worth the struggle to get to wellness. I think it is really a sad thing to see some one waste a life in suicide.
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To Ros, Re. "Ouija Please"
by IslandWoman inhi ros, .
i was just wondering what the phrase "ouija please" means and what is it's significance?.
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Hey now Herk.
You just went to great lengths explaining to me how I should forgive those who do me damage. Remember?
You need to do a little forgiving here and not be so nasty.
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not my enemy
by teejay infollowing on the heels of what bowen said about ray, i began to see a statement that real soon began to get under my skin.
i've read it several times since and i hafta say: that little irritant is beginning to fester more than i care for.
the statement was something in the neighborhood of, "let's not get side-tracked with this franz / bowen fiasco and remember who our real enemy is... the watchtower society!".
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Well I have been gone a couple of days, so I did not respond.
As regards forgivness of others, Herk threw in a couple of scriptures regarding Christ and his crucifiction and his asking God to "forgive them for they know not what they do" to support his position. What is not mentioned is all the scriptures that tell us that repentance is required to get forgivness.That would be recognizing what one is doing is wrong and cease doing it.
We do not know what was in Jesus mind when he asked God to forgive the ones used by others to kill him. It is interesting to note that the real instigators of his death, the Jewish religious leaders and Pontius Pilot the roman governor who caved in to the demands of the pharasies and the man Judas and others involved in his death were not included in his request to God for forgivness. So this scripture can not be used to support any overall requirement to forgive all those who mistreat us.
Since not all of the bible books that speak of Jesus being crucified mention this forgiveness of these few people, it is not certain that he even did this.
I had two friends that were and are elders. One of them, up to today is trying to break up my family relationship to my daughter and my grand children. He does this by telling my daughter that it is against Gods laws to even speak to me unless it is of business etc. He is no longer my friend, he is my enemy. Until he ceases this he will remain so.
The other elder tells my daughter that I have a right to know, see, and associate with my grand children. While he is not my friend he is not my enemy and I have no reason to not forgive him since he does not try to hurt me or my family.
Up to the day the wbts retracts its hateful conduct and actions they will remain my enemy.
Note--I did not say Jehovahs witnesses since not all of them behave this way. I named the wbts as my enemy.
Lark?
Your statement that "when you left the borg you well knew that you would be mistreated. That knowing this in advance some how makes the mistreatment acceptable puzzels me.
Is this what you are saying?
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