Posts by deegee

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JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

by pale.emperor in

i asked the question on quora: .

if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

deegee

Maybe they will have more luck with 70CE since Preterism is a bit popular.

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What if Damascus is destroyed fulfilling Isaiah 17 prophecy?

by sinboi in

i don't think the wt ever say anything about this prophecy.

if they did, i think they will say it is symbolic and that it doesn't mean damascus will be destroyed literally,.

but watching the things happening now in syria , it seems very possible that it could happen.. if this prophecy comes true, will those of you here who have rejected the bible as the word of god think twice regarding the bible?.

deegee

Sinboi,

Isaiah's prophecy regarding the destruction of Damascus is actually a failed prophecy.

Some persons can't accept that Bible prophecies have failed, they rather reinterpret them and project them into the future (BTW, this also applies to Jesus' failed end of the world prophecy).

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What if Damascus is destroyed fulfilling Isaiah 17 prophecy?

by sinboi in

i don't think the wt ever say anything about this prophecy.

if they did, i think they will say it is symbolic and that it doesn't mean damascus will be destroyed literally,.

but watching the things happening now in syria , it seems very possible that it could happen.. if this prophecy comes true, will those of you here who have rejected the bible as the word of god think twice regarding the bible?.

deegee

What LoveUniHateExams said.

Isaiah was writing about Israel’s ancient conflicts with Syria.

Isaiah's focus was on what was happening in his world and what God would do about it in the near future in delivering Israel from her enemies and kicking the other nations butts - or happily allowing them to join the party if they bow the knee to Yahweh.

Isaiah (and the other prophets of Israel) were not concerned with “end times prophecies.”

The biblical records of ancient hostilities are simply NOT veiled references for what is going on in whatever moment we happen to be living in.

Don’t drag Israel’s ancient conflicts with Syria into what is happening now and call it God’s will for today.

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What if Damascus is destroyed fulfilling Isaiah 17 prophecy?

by sinboi in

i don't think the wt ever say anything about this prophecy.

if they did, i think they will say it is symbolic and that it doesn't mean damascus will be destroyed literally,.

but watching the things happening now in syria , it seems very possible that it could happen.. if this prophecy comes true, will those of you here who have rejected the bible as the word of god think twice regarding the bible?.

deegee

Sinboi,

Did Isaiah intend this prophecy to apply to a political situation of his day or to some event in the far flung future?

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Ayahuasca The Soul Herb

by new boy in

i'm writing this tread for the people out there that are still looking for some kind of answers.

people who feel the void that any organized thought system can produce.

people who know there is more to this life than our daily routine which eventually will end, when we no longer exist.

deegee

Maybe he saw them because Jesus and Buddha do exist ~ New Boy

One wonders, would he have seen Jesus and Buddha if he had not taken Ayahuasca?

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Ayahuasca The Soul Herb

by new boy in

i'm writing this tread for the people out there that are still looking for some kind of answers.

people who feel the void that any organized thought system can produce.

people who know there is more to this life than our daily routine which eventually will end, when we no longer exist.

deegee

What Island Man said.

There are many ways to access to the unconscious and experience an altered state of consciousness:
- drugs
- meditation
- hypnosis
- near-death experiences
- religious epiphanies
- intense prayer and fasting chanting
- speaking repeatedly and ecstatically in tongues

to name a few (there are also altered states that arise from illnesses, such as a fever or psychosis).

I have personally experienced altered states of consciousness when I engaged in deep, strong, intense prayer and mediation.
I was simply following the WT's, Bible's and elder's advice to draw close to God, become absorbed with him through deep prayer and meditation however, unknown to myself, I was actually self-inducing, voluntarily inducing an altered state of consciousness by doing this.
I posted my experience in this thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6318622471356416/spirit-channeling-wallkills-bethel

Indeed, drugs can provide access to the inner world of the unconscious.

During a drug-induced (or otherwise induced) altered state of consciousness, you bypass the conscious, active processing of information in your brain and instead "see" directly into the deep levels of your subconscious where "unprocessed files" are buried.

You are just churning up unprocessed thoughts, impressions, images, visions, voices, words etc from the deep levels of your subconscious.

This also opens the way to the unlocking of a deep level of consciousness where psychic and extrasensory perception can be done. New insights well up directly from the fluid matrix of the subconscious and the subtle processing taking place there, without having to be first processed at the conscious level.

Our minds are never perfectly still. There is always subtle
processing going on in which we can't consciously identify the thoughts in terms of clear words or clear images. There are rapid and fleeting associations taking place in the subconscious mind.
Drugs like Ayahuasca can provide access to the unconscious, and help associate dissimilar things in meaningful ways.

This is perhaps the reason why drugs like Ayahuasca are used in the treatment alcohol addicts.

The renown psychologist Carl Jung made the excellent point that when trauma, distress unresolved issues, concerns, fears, worries etc are buried in the subconscious, if they are not dealt with, then they will take on a life of their own.

A lot of times people just can't verbalize, articulate, identify, label what is going on inside them, while whatever is buried in their unconscious takes on a life of its own as there is no intervention.

Drug-induced altered state of consciousness can help such persons face and experience the unpleasant, frightening contents of their collective unconscious.

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

deegee

Wake me Up Before You Jo-Ho,

I did give you credit for this comment in my earlier post on page 4 of this thread:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6318622471356416/spirit-channeling-wallkills-bethel?page=4

No offence intended but I guess everyone is different - it would put a smile on my face if someone should find a comment I made useful, whether or not they gave me credit for it. I’m just glad I’m helping people undo religious indoctrination

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

deegee

knowsnothing1,

You and the ex-Satanist have God to thank for your demon possession.

It was important for God to get rid of the pesky demons from heaven in order to protect his spiritual family (Revelation 12).

But then instead of confining the devil and his demons to the galaxy farthest from earth God decided to banish Satan and the demons to our planet for us to deal with them and we now have to fight them.

God seems to take delight in feeding into Satan's desire to harm and destroy His creation instead of simply casting Satan and the demons to some obscure, gaseous ball of hydrogen 45 billion light years away.

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

deegee

knowsnothing 1,

I am extremely happy to know that you have overcome your panic attacks.

Whether or not God exists, I still maintain that it is not reasonable to believe that God will protect you from demons but not the people in the holocaust who cried out for his help just like you did, yet they were still herded into the gas chambers. No deliverance from the fiery furnace there (Daniel 3).

There are many stories of people crying out for God's help daily, yet no help comes.

Am I supposed to believe that you are more special than all of these people?

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Spirit Channeling at Wallkill's Bethel

by Marie33 in

look what an ex-bethelite has to say about the spirit channeling he saw first hand up at wallkill:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfmqnzbyrko.

now i believe rayven's story of horror at brooklyn bethel:.

deegee

knowsnothing 1,

It is not reasonable to believe that God will protect you from demons but not the people in the holocaust who also cried out for his help just like you did.

They were still herded into the gas chambers. No deliverance from the fiery furnace there (Daniel 3).