Posts by Perry

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Me Before and After leaving the Lie

by cantleave in

jw
friends

when i was serving as an elder.

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now.

jw's are suckers.. they got fooled.. they devoted their life to a fraud.. they have been ambiently abused.. they have been used for the money.. they are stuck in a sick mindset.. with sick people.. in a sick temple.. and (the real estate fraud) makes money off the sickness.. i say run away fast.. get your family.. get your friends.. get your kids.. run as fast as you can.. don't look back.. eventually you will heal.. eventually..

Perry

When I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior from most of what you wrote, I was through running.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal. 5:1

It is JW's who run from the light.

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3 1/2 - 7 Years in Jail....

by Lee Elder in

for neglecting to provide medically necessary treatment.

jw parents need to understand.

this can happen to them.

Perry

when would it be right to sacrifice your child in the name of anything?

This includes the abortion mills that sacrifice millions of children in the name of selfishnes. Murderers come in all shapes, sizes, and world views.

"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" - Sounds so simple.

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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.

by BU2B in

if one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.

if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.

how do jws not see the obvious?

Perry

God has a rule; the penalty of sin is death, but the gift God gives is LIFE....ABUNDANT LIFE. HE MADE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO BE SIN...."FOR US".

All men die, it makes no real difference if God decides some should die a little sooner or later for that matter to suit his purposes. But what about babies some may say? Maybe God did them a favor by removing them before they sinned. One thing is for sure, when we sin God only owes us judgment.

why would the creator of all things insist upon the slaughter of animals

Maybe because "all flesh had become ruined" on earth? Genesis says that only Noah was "perfect in his generations". [Reference to DNA?]- Gen. 6:9 ASV, KJV

Genesis tells us that man was wicked and that every imagination of his heart was evil. This seems to imply that man imagined to corrupt the earth and all that lived on it - and he apparently did all that he imagined to do. Note that verses 11 and 12 say that the earth was also corrupt and that all flesh had corrupted his way. Man did that as a result of Watcher and Nephilim influence. Note what the Book of Jasher has to say about this:

And all the sons of men departed from the ways of the Lord in those days as they multiplied upon the face of the earth with sons and daughters, and they taught one another their evil practices and they continued sinning against the Lord. And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence. And their judges and rulers [the Watchers] went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals. And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.

And all men who walked in the ways of the Lord, died in those days, before the Lord brought the evil upon man which he had declared, for this was from the Lord, that they should not see the evil which the Lord spoke of concerning the sons of men.

And Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord chose him and his children to raise up seed from them upon the face of the whole earth.

- Jasher 4:16-21 [emphasis mine]

and in the Book of Enoch:

And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants....And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones."

The book of Jasher is not inspired but is a Jewish history book that is quoted three times in the bible. The Book of Enoch is likewise quoted in the bible.

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Now predicting increase of anointed?

by jgnat in

i came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.

"are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".

....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.

Perry

Excellent research Bobcat.

The "other sheep" that Jesus casually mentioned when he spoke to the Jews was fairly quickly revealed shortly after Jesus left the earth. Of those, he said, "those also I must bring".

Paul, by the Holy Spirit, elaborated on this statement and revealed just EXACTLY who the "other sheep" were:

1 Cor. 12;13 - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

NO WHERE in the New Testament is there a picture of anyone being saved from judgment by any other means EXCEPT by the New Covenant. ALL "drink into one spirit"; First offered to the Jew, and then to all Gentiles..... the "other sheep".

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The Elders Returned, as Promised!

by exWTslave in

wonderful love!.

Perry

God bless you for having the backbone to stand for Christ exWtSlave!!

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Now predicting increase of anointed?

by jgnat in

i came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.

"are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".

....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.

Perry

The real nonsense here is the use of the word "remnant". A remnant is what is left over from something. But here they admit that the remnant grew. They are trying to correlate the growth of historical Christian believers with the growth of Watchtower Publishers.

They are growing a false class of new-covenant-rejecting-believers that was never even mentioned in the New Testament scriptures and trying to say that it is an inevitable historical reality, proved by the historical growth of real Christian believers who DID accept the New Covenant.

Here, this diligent elder is seen helping a weak publisher get his thinking readjusted after questioning the logic and sanity of rejecting Christ as his Mediator as the Watchtower teaches is necessary for the Great Crowd.

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

Perry

Perry have you been drinking? You seem more delusional than normal.

Bohm,

No, been home sick. I normally don't have time for sociopaths. Oooops I'm talking to you

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

Perry

Snare and Racket you have some similarities with sociopathy.....Perry

.................. Because he Disagrees with you??!!

Outlaw,

Of course not. When someone says that scientists who think the evidence points to a first cause can go enjoy themselves with bestaility like Snare and Racket did, I'm going to bring it to their attention just how offensive to polite humanity those kinds of statements really are. It IS sociopathic. And, it's nothing personal. I also stand by my views on the links of the dogmatism of Materialism with Sociopathy in light of current scientific knowledge of the DNA information coding systems.

So far, NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PROVIDED that suggest the DNA molecule is anything other than an advanced language coding, recepticle, reader, repair station, information distributer etc. and that the DNA Code Languages are in FACT coding languages like scientists have been saying for years and that we ALL learned about in the 6th grade for goodness sakes.

Amazing claims like the ones Snare and Racket makes about how The dna codes are only codes when you look at them, REQUIRE AMAZING PROF.

Who wrote the code?

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Who Made The Code?

by Perry in

a few weeks ago, discoveries were made that show that there is another dna code language that rides on top of the already incredibly complex 4-letter code previously discovered.

this newly discovered code apparently regulates how genes work.

as i noted in a previous thread, the amount of data storage available in the dna storage system just the size of a pin-head would filll a stack of books stacked from your driveway to the moon .... 500 times!

Perry

Paralipomenon ,

It easy to confuse matter with information. They are different. They are non-sequiturs. The information in DNA is not the same as the storage vehicle:

DNA language not the same as DNA molecule

Consider;

Recent studies in information theory have come up with some astounding conclusions—namely, that information cannot be considered in the same category as matter and energy. It's true that matter or energy can carry information, but they are not the same as information itself.

For instance, a book such as Homer's Iliad contains information, but is the physical book itself information? No, the materials of the book—the paper, ink and glue contain the contents, but they are only a means of transporting it.

If the information in the book was spoken aloud, written in chalk or electronically reproduced in a computer, the information does not suffer qualitatively from the means of transporting it. "In fact the content of the message," says professor Phillip Johnson, "is independent of the physical makeup of the medium" ( Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds , 1997, p. 71).

The same principle is found in the genetic code. The DNA molecule carries the genetic language, but the language itself is independent of its carrier. The same genetic information can be written in a book, stored in a compact disk or sent over the Internet, and yet the quality or content of the message has not changed by changing the means of conveying it.

As George Williams puts it: "The gene is a package of information, not an object. The pattern of base pairs in a DNA molecule specifies the gene. But the DNA molecule is the medium, it's not the message" (quoted by Johnson, p. 70).

So, in other words....even if one allows for the trillions of times of dis-probability regarding the chance formation of the DNA molecule as an incredibly eficient and tiny information storage, reading, repair, dissemination device, IT STILL DOESN'T ADDRESS WHERE THE INFORMATION COMES FROM.

More Defectors From Materialism

Back in Darwin's day, when his book On the Origin of Species was published in 1859, life appeared much simpler. Viewed through the primitive microscopes of the day, the cell appeared to be but a simple blob of jelly or uncomplicated protoplasm. Now, almost 150 years later, that view has changed dramatically as science has discovered a virtual universe inside the cell.

"It was once expected," writes Professor Behe, "that the basis of life would be exceedingly simple. That expectation has been smashed. Vision, motion, and other biological functions have proven to be no less sophisticated than television cameras and automobiles. Science has made enormous progress in understanding how the chemistry of life works, but the elegance and complexity of biological systems at the molecular level have paralyzed science's attempt to explain their origins" (Behe, p. x).

Dr. Meyer considers the recent discoveries about DNA as the Achilles" heel of evolutionary theory. He observes: "Evolutionists are still trying to apply Darwin's nineteenth-century thinking to a twenty-first century reality, and it's not working ... I think the information revolution taking place in biology is sounding the death knell for Darwinism and chemical evolutionary theories" (quoted by Strobel, p. 243).

Dr. Meyer's conclusion? "I believe that the testimony of science supports theism. While there will always be points of tension or unresolved conflict, the major developments in science in the past five decades have been running in a strongly theistic direction" (ibid., p. 77).

Dean Kenyon, a biology professor who repudiated his earlier book on Darwinian evolution—mostly due to the discoveries of the information found in DNA—states: "This new realm of molecular genetics (is) where we see the most compelling evidence of design on the Earth" (ibid., p. 221).

Just recently, one of the world's most famous atheists, Professor Antony Flew, admitted he couldn't explain how DNA was created and developed through evolution. He now accepts the need for an intelligent source to have been involved in the making of the DNA code.

"What I think the DNA material has done is show that intelligence must have been involved in getting these extraordinary diverse elements together," he said (quoted by Richard Ostling, "Leading Atheist Now Believes in God," Associated Press report, Dec. 9, 2004).