okay, i know the royal commission hasn't started yet.
but i'm confident enough that he will be telling some whoppers.
so i thought i'd be the first to get a thread started for something that will begin... very soon now!.
The GB can never lie. Not unless they are all saying the same thing together at the same time in unison.
No individual is the GB. They must all be together making decisions as a body.
sure GJ made some "mistakes" but he wouldn't have had Jah's HS on him as the F&DS would have. I guess we'll never ever get to see the "F&DS" ever actually lie on stand
pity
so my wife and i were up in edinburgh for the weekend for the international festival - we had a great weekend including going to see the military tattoo at the castle.. we were walking up the royal mile watching the street performers among hundreds of thousands of others from all over the world when i spotted the cult cart in it's usual spot being universally ignored.
feeling confident after my confrontation a couple of weeks ago we decided to go and have a chat with the two men.
i asked them if they were keeping up with the events in australia and proceeded to share lots of information with them.
Nice job cofty
they will outwardly scoff you, but deep down they will think about your points and at least how crazy the JWs "look" to outsiders
well done
within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.
however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.
he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.
"presumptuous to say the we are the "only" spokesperson god is using...."
he should be DFd for apostasy. He is implying there could be someone else on earth used by Jehovah to teach truth.
wait a tic..... you didn't mean Jah was using angels did you? or that perhaps non governing body members could possibly be used and you don't know it yet, kind of like the old F&DS teaching?\
Are you playing games with this on GJ? so typical
since geoffrey jackson's appearance before the australian royal commission on friday there has for some been an expressed feeling of anticlimax.
it is as though he was given too much latitude to preach, to claim ignorance and to skirt questions.
more to the point, as much as i myself thought i would never have expected to say this, gj actually came across as likeable and - don't throttle me please!
Dumplin-
your reasoning with your wife was spot on
has anyone here re-watched that last day?
the part where justice mcclellan is asking mr jackson if he feels that this royal commission is a sincere effort to make some good changes in policy...?.
and does mr jackson feel it would be worth it to put a collective effort, along with other organizations to compensate or find means of redress, for the victims of child sexual abuse?.
Quote:Jackson stated an apostate is someone who goes against the Bible. This is a lie. An apostate is someone who goes against the religion.
remember ray franz DF announcement? The WT emphasized rays issue was not with the bible but with the organization
what a blatant lie by Jackson
geoffrey jackson's unfailingly diplomatic responses during friday's royal commission hearings have undoubtedly limited damage to the reputation of the jw organization - but i could never again imagine the watchtower and awake!
magazines criticizing other religions over their responses to child sexual abuse within their parishes.
too close for comfort.
These situations shouldn't be about money
they should be about fixing flawed policies
unfortunately money seems to be the only way to scare institutions enough to act
i hate how litigious society is. But nobody is more letigious than the WTS. As much as I disagree with lawyers suing anyone over anything to see what sticks, the WTS is getting beat at its own game this time
geoffrey jackson spent 20 minutes accepting the position that it is not scripturally prohibited for women to be used in the investigation process, although probably not the jc itself (he said he'd check the scriptures on that bit, but we can guess the outcome).. look out for the wives of elders jostling for and gaining these positions.
there will be no better opportunity for gossip mongers to raise their status in the congregation than being officially involved in the intimate private business of others in the congregation.. think of the power they will have in advising the elders on a jc if she thinks the victim is credible, with her opinion, bias and embellishments on the details.
i wouldn't fancy the chances of a victim who has previously fallen out with one of these 'helpers'.. whatever next, sisters handling microphones??!
99% of sisters DONT WANT privileges. They want a husband with status.
this is how they are raised in the Org
nothing of any significance will change
sisters hold the doors open at assemblies now. We'll just see more of that stuff
life has been busy, but i am now on 2 weeks vacation which allowed me some thinking room.
and here's what's been on my mind.. we're all going to die.
no matter what we do, our fate is sealed.
From an atheistic view death is not more harsh, rather life more precious
in 100 years all of us will be dust in a grave
so what could you possibly have to worry about?
i guess this article will be appreciated within the jw community, being on the positive side when discussing blood transfusion.
it is the first of three articles to be published in that prestigious magazine.. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-jehovahs-witnesses-are-changing-medicine.
I saw a recent blood article flaunted by dubs that referred to blood as a liquid organ. Yet organ transplants are a conscience decision
At the end of the day, the ONLY reason dubs prohibit blood is cause "the bible" (their interpretation) tells them too
thats it
they can try to sound all sciencey and medically but it's all smoke and mirrors.
When science disagrees with God they reject science, when it agrees they applaude it. They only do what they're told by God=GB
at the regional convention (national!!
) for scotland, mark sanderson elicited 13 rounds of applause during his closing talk, (for the least little things!
) plus a final one for his closing prayer!
I remember once old br. John Carey I think was his name, of the GB was speaking at the end of a DC and the audience was clapping constantly. At one point he tried to keep talking over the clapping then said "ok go ahead" and everyone giggled and then a huge applause ensued. So ridiculous
