Welcome D-R, as others have said the best way is the slow way. It's over a year on for me and I'm still finding difficult. The first instinct is to tell everything and I'm afraid I did. I've had to pull back and just drop things every now and again. Test out what works, what presses the right buttons and leave out the things that get you nowhere. I'm doing a very slow fade. Getting the balance right between people noticing and not noticing is difficult. There's a number of ups and downs along the way, sometimes things get really tough but hang in there. We're all here to help and support each other. Have a vent sometimes when things get too much. Take care and I hope you find the way that works for you!
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How do I tell my husband?
by dissonance_resolved ini'm a born in, baptized as a young teenager, whole family is jw.
i just recently woke up after the new understanding of the fds was announced and it seemed to me to smack of power-grabbing.
i started looking at all the websites we're not supposed to, and now i know why.
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Welcome Brother of the Hawk, your family has a really amazing story. So glad that you,your wife, daughter and SIL all have each other!
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The cult mentality of JW's in action
by Gojira_101 inthis is a perfect example of how the cult mind-control fear, hate...etc works in the jw mind.. sorry this is going to be a long post.
these are emails from the 2 days worth of conversations, so it's going to be long.. this was a message i got from my cousins mom...this was the first email i got.. i was recently informed of your fathers recent visit to his mother and the volatile conversation he had with her and the apostate things he said about jehovah's organization.
i did not talk to your grandmother and hear from her personally but through and reliable friend whom i trust explicitly that talked with her.
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Gojira.. have sent you a pm
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Welcome Brother of the Hawk! You are Newly Enlightened's hubby (Gojira's dad)? Look forward to hearing from you. Try to post in google chrome. Hope you didn't lose a long post!
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Elders' Gems of Wisdom
by stephenw20 inmy dad asked the co about this one.
mat 27:52-53. and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, .
and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
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Thanks for bumping! Some hilarious posts!
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JANUARY 15TH 2013 STUDY EDITION. ???????????????
by DATA-DOG ini have been skimming the magazine this morning, and the whole issue seems designed to keep the flock at the kh.
yes, i know this is not exactly " new " information.
still with all the problems the organization is having, this one just seemed to strike me as odd.
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I was at the meeting... kept nodding off... can't for the life of me think why....
Anyway... hubby pulled out an elder letter which I looked over as he had it out. It was all about elders calling on inactive ones with the invite to the memorial, arranging lifts for them etc.... I just thought to myself about all you faders out there.... be prepared!! Elders will be calling soon!
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My interview with "Truth be Told" filmmaker Gregorio Smith
by RayPublisher ini had the pleasure of conducting a telephone interview with "truth be told" filmmaker gregorio smith yesterday.
he is a fascinating, intelligent person and has an intimate knowledge of the destructiveness the watchtower society has wreaked upon people's lives due to shunning, the blood ban, etc.. some two years in the making, this full-length documentary film entitled "truth be told" seeks to expose the watchtower for what it is.
a debut screening for the public will take place in brooklyn new york on march 27, 2013. other major cities will follow.
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Topics Witnesses Should Seriously Think About
by Darth Rutherford inthe bible teaches that jesus is the one mediator between god and all mankind [anthropon], but the organization teaches us that jesus christ, is not the mediator between jehovah god and all mankind.
(the watchtower, 9/15/1993, p.22) the bible teaches that salvation is through jesus not an earthly organization under heaven.
the organization matches jesus description.
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Great thread DR!
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Scientific proof that Hell does not exist
by tornapart ininteresting article... .
http://willthomasonline.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/finally-proof-that-hell-does-not-exist/.
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For anyone that doesn't want to click the link.....
FINALLY, PROOF THAT HELL DOES NOT EXIST
A chemistry student at the University of Washington has ended a centuries-long reign of terror by major religions that have been threatening believers with perpetual agony in eternal hellfire if they question “God’s word” – as stipulated by ministers, priests, popes and scholars poring over passages not “written by God” (who did not even leave any notes) but penned by other men with similarly controlling agendas.
Of course, the impossibility of a disembodied soul (or spirit) feeling corporeal sensations such as cold, rain, heat or fire has made the concept of “roasting in hell” like a chicken basted on a rotisserie a nonstarter from the beginning.
Despite this insurmountable contradiction, the notion of an eteral fiery pit filled with pitchfork-loads of freaked out souls was imposed by exasperated church leaders who finally resorted to saying “to hell with everyone” tempted toward the strong human propensity to enjoy sex and other pleasures of the flesh.
Now, thanks to a student’s answer to a bonus question on a recent mid-term university exam, threatening anyone with hell is now just a laughing matter.
Ironically, even deliciously, an act of lovemaking clinched the argument against hell.
With “eternal damnation” now proven false, daily demonstations of direct casue-and-effect… reaping what we sow… treating others as we wish to be treated… sending out vibes and actions that come back around – for good or ill – with interest… and plain ol’ karmic rebalancing provide all the incentive anyone should require to “do the right thing.”
Who needs hell, when paying for our own perversity and screw-ups right here on Earth – and receiving the benefits of our good deeds – is so inescapably inevitable? Even if we dodge the law, there’s no fooling our sickened bodies, stricken conscience, or our souls. And who needs that?
To hell with hell.
HELL EXPLAINED BY CHEMISTRY STUDENT
Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs using Boyle’s Law, which states that gas cools when it expands, and heats when it is compressed. One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let’s look at the different religions that exist in the world today.
Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle’s Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, “It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,” and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct……leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting “Oh my God.”
THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+
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Scientific proof that Hell does not exist
by tornapart ininteresting article... .
http://willthomasonline.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/finally-proof-that-hell-does-not-exist/.
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Throw in a bit of human biology........