Ask.. "JWs say that Jesus is here already.. an invisible presence... right?" "They say that Armageddon is coming very soon, right?"
"Read for me Luke 21:8.. what does Jesus tell us to do when anyone says those things.?"
tornapart
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A one sentence reply that could jolt a JW
by HBH inmy mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
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A one sentence reply that could jolt a JW
by HBH inmy mind was wandering last night, and i though of this as a reply to a jw.. "oh, your the people who believe 8 men in brooklyn, ny are directing the world's only true religion.".
the sentence is a fact that they can't deny, but clearly shows delusion.
any other one sentence "stingers"?.
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tornapart
@vangogh... " you are the people who baptise people in the name of the Father, Michael the Archangel and the Holy Spirit..."
Almost right vangogh but isn't it....
" you are the people who baptise people in the name of the Father, Michael the Archangel and the spirit directed organisation"?
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Jehovah's Witnesses worship the GOLDEN CALF
by Terry inmoses led enslaved jews out of bondage in egypt to promised reward.. moses went up on the mountain (sinai) and the people waited, ran out of faith and made an idol (golden calf) to worship.. those people thought they needed a centralized worship focused on the visible.
they constructed their own.. the last centralized focus of worship, the temple in jerusalem, brought jews from everywhere to focus on one location.. when that was destroyed, they scattered and ran for the hills.. the true believers who replaced the jews (spiritual jews) banded together and concocted the church universal (catholic).
to centralize a theocratic government.
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King Jereboam built a Golden Calf at Bethel, so the Israelites in the Northern tribes didn't go and worship at Jerusalem.
Today the Golden Calf is at Bethel so JWs don't worship Jesus.
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Nugget's Latest work in progress (pen and ink)
by cantleave instill a fair bit to do but i thought it is worth posting.
this is all done with dots no lines at all.. .
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tornapart
Wow!! That's awesome!!
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Nugget's Latest work in progress (pen and ink)
by cantleave instill a fair bit to do but i thought it is worth posting.
this is all done with dots no lines at all.. .
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tornapart
Beautiful!!
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So you want to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxo8nj-jpo.
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from roguepixel100 on youtube.
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tornapart
This is worth a BUMP!
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Bro at table set up wouldn't answer question (but still counted his time)
by ShirleyW ini asked when they would start offering gray bible and she said two weeks, then the only bro at the table saw my headphones in my hand started in by saying " i see you're plugged in, do you have a smartphone?
to which i said no, because i just had a feeling that must've been a new angle to tell folks about the new bible app.the sis said they would start offering it in two weeks the bro goes on to mention that you can download the app and you get the bible in five different languages and mentions some other stuff you can do onthe app, i said all this technology reminds when the society admonished you all to stay away from the interenet about 25 years ago .
you should've seen his face, he was smiling but was thinking "how does show know" behind that smile.
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tornapart
Shirley, what's the mistake they made in Numbers?
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Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah
by compound complex inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adjijphj8co.
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tornapart
Sounds better than the 'Kingdom Melodies'!
Coco.. are they Welsh, these guys? Welshman are generally known for having great singing voices for some reason...
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A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian
by cofty ina manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
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tornapart
Cofty, there's nothing wrong with anyone doing that. That isn't the point I'm making. If someone wants to believe in God then that's their perogative and they shouldn't be made to feel wrong for doing so. Just because someone believes in God doesn't mean they haven't looked at the facts, it just means they've come to a different conclusion.
I'm not so sure I understand why the atheists on here are so keen on getting christians to dump their faith? I can understand fully why you'd want JW's to dump their faith in the WT organisation but when someone simply wants to have a personal relationship with God without involving anyone else, why are you so interested in what they believe anyway?
As far as I'm concerned, you're an atheist, you're happy being an atheist... you've done all the 'God/religion' thing and decided you don't want it. Who am I to try and change your beliefs? Or even try to. What you have found has made you happy. On the other hand, what I have found has made me happy. Why are you so concerned with trying to change it?
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A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian
by cofty ina manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
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tornapart
Sometimes reality can actually be an illusion of reality. For instance an atheist will say 'God doesn't exist'... a theist will say 'God does exist'....
To a theist, his belief is his reality. To an atheist, his belief is his reality. The reality actually is that neither side can either prove nor disprove the existence of God.