Topics Started by Phizzy
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Eric Sykes has died, one of the unrecognised comedy greats.
by Phizzy inthis thread is for those on the uk side of the pond, i guess our friends in the u.s would not have been exposed to the comedy genius of eric.. i say "unrecognised" in the thread title with recognition that many many people here in the u.k had great affection for eric and did appreciate his prodigious talent, but i still feel it would have been good if he had received even more in the of the way of approbation and appreciation in his lifetime.. r.i.p eric, you were one of a kind..
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Ten Years From Now .......
by Phizzy inwhat with the very low baptism rate, many leaving, many waking up and staying in for now, but not "zealous" any more, the wt/jw religion/scam is without doubt moribund.. i do not foresee a sudden end to the wt but what will it look llike in ten years time ??.
the late teens/early twenty year olds of today will i think be very thin on the ground as 30 year old jw's, so my view is that in ten years time it will be mainly old hardcore ones ,50 yr old and up, and even they will be aware that the org.
is dying..
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
confidant ?
perplexed ?
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I think the Candace Conti story has sunk without trace in the U.K
by Phizzy inas above, the dm site is not showing it unless you click the link on here or search for c.c no newspaer has reported it to my knowledge, the jw's are so insignificant that the public do not give a s**t in the opinion of journalists..
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I dreamed I went to Heaven.....
by Phizzy inand there, seated on a golden throne was jehovah, not frightening at all, very impressive but benign looking, with a pleasant smile, he said "would you like to ask me anything?".
it flashed through my mind that i would ask him the question about allowing evil, but i thought i might not get too long to question so i said : .
"are you the supreme being ?".
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"I respect a person's beliefs"
by Phizzy ini often hear this phrase "i respect a person's beliefs" on here and elsewhere, but i feel strongly that you should not.. i know that sometimes people mean by that phrase that they respect the right of a person to hold silly beliefs if they want to, but if that is so, say so.. if a person's beliefs are unsupportable, perhaps looney, perhaps downright dangerous,murderous, like the jw blood doctrine, such beliefs deserve no respect at all.. the person holding them we can show respect to by telling them in a gentle, and polite way that their beliefs are a pile of steaming poo, but we should not show respect for the beliefs, even by the simple act of remaining silent.. "to tell the truth as you see it is a wonderful thing" john lydon ("johnny rotten" late of the sex pistols, and now p. i. ltd).
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Anti-witnessing.
by Phizzy insince leaving for good i have always liked to "anti-witness" whenever i get the chance.. i found that people used to question it if i called the jw's a cult, they used to say things like "oh they are not that scary !
", and of course the wt does a good job of masking its cult status, and its high control tactics.. most people too, are just not interested in doctrine.. so, lately i have simply started saying "it is a scam!
" , if they want details it is easy to say in a few words how the property business part of the scam works.. but i think if we can get the idea out there that it is a scam, pure and simple, then more people will avoid it than would merely on my or your claim that it is a false religious cult.. so, "scam's the word" if that goes viral it should stop a lot of people from falling for it.. of course, they will still suck some in, but they will be the same people still falling for the financial scams coming from nigeria..
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Fernando says we are "all" dysfunctional
by Phizzy inposter fernando makes the statement on another thread that we are all "fallen, imperfect, dysfunctional" .
everybody.. i get the feeling that this is not too far removed in its thinking from the wt statement that apostates are mentally diseased, now i am aware that fernando is perpetuating the late doctrine of original sin, and his words were about all mankind, not just us on jwn.. but do you believe you are cursed by what a fictitious couple did in a fabled garden around 6,000 years ago ?
does that make you imperfect, fallen and dysfunctional ?.
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Any NEWS on the protest planned for the London Bethel on thurs ?
by Phizzy ini remember the post that mentioned the proposed protest on mem.
night , did it go ahead ?
how did it go ?.
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Was Last Supper a Passover meal ?
by Phizzy inaccording to russell in zions watchtower of march 1896 he wanted his little church in allegeheny to celebrate the last supper on nisan14 becuase jesus instituted it then, some time after 6pm, by 3pm the next afternoon, still nisan14 he was dead.. at 6pm three hours later nisan15 began, passover began, and the jews would eat the lamb and bitter herbs, when the sun was down... so russells view was that jesus did not celebrate passover, being dead, on preperation day.. thus jesus died at the time the lambs were being slaughtered in jerusalem.. if i am correct the wt's latest explanation on this is not quite as clear as russells.
they seem to infer the last supper was a seder, a passover celebration, and that the slaughter of the lamb ,eating of the lamb, and jesus death all took place on nisan 14, have i got that right, or as usual is phizzy in a mucking fuddle ?
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