i've had this theory for some time and alluded to it occassionally but have never explored it in detail.. it is of course a huge generalisation so no, not everyone will fit into the boxes and i'd like people's opinion.
i don't know everyone's circumstances so it's based on a small sample of some of those i do know something about.
it could be completely wrong, it's just an idea.. basically, i have seen a difference between some of those ex-jws who walked out vs those who were kicked out.. the most bitter and obsessive seem to be the kicked out and, i must add, those who were legitimately kicked out.
Simon;
Yep, I tend to agree with you. Of course that's in general terms - I realise there are exceptions.
I really wonder whether a lot of the posters we have seen on JWD who like to think of themselves as exJW are simply lapsed dubs?
We've probably met many people in 'real life' are known as lapsed catholics - are they any more 'ex' than are many folk we've encountered here?
i've had this theory for some time and alluded to it occassionally but have never explored it in detail.. it is of course a huge generalisation so no, not everyone will fit into the boxes and i'd like people's opinion.
i don't know everyone's circumstances so it's based on a small sample of some of those i do know something about.
it could be completely wrong, it's just an idea.. basically, i have seen a difference between some of those ex-jws who walked out vs those who were kicked out.. the most bitter and obsessive seem to be the kicked out and, i must add, those who were legitimately kicked out.
HS said:
These people need professional help and I would suggest that these boards rather than helping them, actually add to their emotional issues.
It's an interesting observation, one that I hadn't thought about but I do find it an appealing one. In other words, these boards can actually feed their anger, further entrenching their characterisation as an exJW. Or rather that should simply be a lapsed JW?
i often wonder how he's doing and wonder if someone can fill me/us in?
Me too. He's often in my thoughts. Anyone know how Ian is?
after coming here almost every day for years, it will be bewildering to have no jwd.
and the truth is, there are other places that will pop up in the years to come but i doubt very much anything will be of this magnitude in regard to assisting others out of the organization.. i think if any are so inclined, they should make their emails available so as to make further contact with our cyber friends.. well now, i'm sure a lot of lurkers are kicking themselves for not joining here.
too late!
The ark's door is already shut.
LOL @ min ! Good one.
wow, today has been killer.
this morning started with a bit of drama...but by the middle of the day, i was in shock, in a great way.. yesterday i got a call to fix the paint on an rv, so i dropped everything and went there...frankly because my kids are here and i need the money to have food...yea...that tight.
those jobs usually pay cash.. i did the job, and got offered another one...working for the guy's company which he owns outright.. it's a movie production company and i'm working on-set for a stupid amount of money i still can't believe until i get the first check.
we have known behind the scenes for a time that this was being considered, obviously.
i just want to express my personal appreciation for what simon and angharad have done here on jwd.
i found jwd just a few months after leaving the organization, and kind of believing that i was pretty alone in the world at the time.
Well, Jeff, your thread didn't stay on-topic for long, eh?
so many christians highlight love and mercy as the main point of their religion.. that's undeniably appealing.. but is it true to christianity?.
in the end, isn't the belief all about escaping god's violent wrath?
aren't those that are unable to accept the system's contradictions and absurdities promised suffering and eventual destruction as punishment for their disbelief?.
I'm so nauseated by the fearmongering Christianity that I experienced first-hand as a JW and that I've seen in other churches that are prominent where I live that even if I could find something appealing in Christianity, I could never ever call myself a Christian.
Fair enough, but are you sure you experienced Christianity as a JW?
november 11, 1990 in japan.. a "special meeting" of jehovah's witnesses.. a speaker is daniel sydlik.. the theme of a talk is "keep your faith and hope alive".. it was the surprising talk that faith and a hope healed sickness.. i like this talk.. i exhibit a part of this talk.. those who want to listen to the whole of this talk need to send me e-mail.. the talk of the woman of leukemia.
http://www.mediafire.com/?djbgoqtlfy8.
the talk of the woman of cancer, and a 200-pounds woman.
G'day possible-san:
This thought is not new. It's known as psychosomatic healing i.e. mind over matter. In the 'old' "Life everlasting" book, it discusses this in the first or second chapter. It goes this way: after armageddon, as the survivoirs become more obedient, they will also become more perfect, seeing their bodies restored, etc. In other words, as they become more perfectly obedient, they'll see their bodies become also more perfect. so some would attain perfection before others.
To my knowledge, this idea wasn't repeated in the publications, but it's interesting that Sydlik should be discussing it in a talk.
Chweers, Ozzie
november 11, 1990 in japan.. a "special meeting" of jehovah's witnesses.. a speaker is daniel sydlik.. the theme of a talk is "keep your faith and hope alive".. it was the surprising talk that faith and a hope healed sickness.. i like this talk.. i exhibit a part of this talk.. those who want to listen to the whole of this talk need to send me e-mail.. the talk of the woman of leukemia.
http://www.mediafire.com/?djbgoqtlfy8.
the talk of the woman of cancer, and a 200-pounds woman.
Thank you.
Ozziepost (from downunder in Australia)
i samuel 17:54 - "and david took the head of the philistine and brought it to jerusalem".
why did david do this, especially when the city of jerusalem was over 20 miles away and also under jebusite control at the time?.
VM44: I was wondering whether to press the delete button on the off topic posts but let's hope the children stay away now, eh?
