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  Embracing, Not Running From, My Repressive JW Heritage, Finding A Few Things Worth Salvaging

  by TMS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes, we could have been born in an alley in calcutta or with the physical deformities associated with thalidomide.

  instead, we were born into or introduced to a repressive, american, religious cult, that shielded us from the warmongering game of chess, the militaristic boy scouts, fornication-inducing sock hops, the twist, as well as the hokey pokey.

  we heeded the warnings, avoiding the greedy self-worship associated with masturbation, decadent rock 'n roll and anything preceded by the word "extra-curricular.".

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  Even if there was a benefit from TMS, I believe a cost/benefits analysis would render it negligible.

  And many of the talks around the TMS was about why the householder was wrong about a belief they had.
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  JWs Letters Target Recently Bereaved

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  current media attention in new zealand is focusing on the case of a woman whose male friend died three months.

  she received a handwritten letter personally addressed to her and her deceased friend with a series of questions about what happens after death.

  the woman was furious and, accompanied by news media, door-knocked the address provided by the letter writer.

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  I believe what the public and any governing institutions that are looking into this need to know are the sociological pressures that drive a rank and file JW toward this activity. The fault lies at the source (Watchtower), rather than the misguided individual taught to do this.
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  Please sum up the last decade in JW history

  by oldskool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i used to be a member of this site, but jumped off a good number of years ago (08?).

  i don't have access to my old email, so i'm using a new account.. anyway, i was baptized jw in late 90's.

  da'd mid 2000s.. when i left there were three meets a week plus field service.

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  Off the top of my head...

  Two meetings a week.

  The midweek meeting is now rebranded and called Our Christian Life and Service...I believe that includes the bookstudy.

  There is a study edition of the Watchtowers for the Sunday meeting. For the public, new Watchtower and Awakes are released every other month and no longer dated. They are also half the size they used to be.

  There is a constant attention to the website JW.ORG and a JW online TV channel. Lots of attention in showing people videos in the "ministry".

  Some JWs love to wear trinkets with JW.ORG on them...some wear it almost like Christians who wear a cross.

  Some JWs are setting up literature carts and parking them in public places. It is called "cart witnessing".

  Watchtower HQ is moving the Warwick. Thousands of Bethelites being laid off.

  DOs have been eliminated.

  Regional Building Committee replaced by the centrally controlled Local Design Committee...there is a new style of Kingdom Hall being built that looks like a commercial office. However, the building work has slowed evidently due to a lack of funds...

  Changes of doctrine:

  The Faithful Slave is the Governing Body

  The generation of Matthew 24:34 is two overlapping groups of anointed. One group who sees 1914, the other group who sees the Great Tribulation. But these two groups are somehow one generation.

  Gog is not Satan, but unknown as of this point...

  and Awakes are

  . Four magazines a month I believe? Service time silps. AUX pio was 50 hours, maybe 40? Pioneer school, yeah I did that. Brooklyn was still a thing for WTC. Only computer thing going on was the Watchtowers CD-ROM, plus a dinky website nobody looked at.
  
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  Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

  there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

  i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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  DY:

  The main topic is not the attendees...it is about the content of the convention and the lack of reporting regarding it.

  The content encourages shunning family and friends, dying rather than taking a blood transfusion, forgoing higher education, selling ones home so as to do more for the organization. Therefore, it is not just a gathering of another religion or form of Christianity. A mainstream religious group does not going to these extremes.
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  Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

  there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

  i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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  Doubtfully Yours:

  Conventions of "bikers or tattoo enthusiasts or politicians" do not encourage shunning family members and friends, to not take blood transfusions in emergencies, selling homes and take lesser paying jobs to proselytize "where the need is greater", forgo higher education, ramp up apocalyptic doomsday fears, ect, ect...
  

  And I'm not saying that journalists should not report anything positive they might observe...but do more robust reporting on what is really taught at the convention and how it affects people.
  
  
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  Newspaper article on Conventions—why so glowing?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event.

  there are exceptions, but usually it is like the articles above.

  i would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.

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  Every year in dozens of cities where conventions are being held, newspapers typically write an article about the event. There are exceptions, but usually they print articles like these:

  http://www.gazettes.com/entertainment/jehovah-s-witness-annual-convention-promotes-loyalty/article_d00965a6-1d1f-11e6-86b8-ef61aa9f3fae.html

  http://www.presstelegram.com/social-affairs/20160519/thousands-of-jehovahs-witnesses-will-kick-off-weekend-conventions-in-long-beach

  Typically, the journalist goes to the convention spokesman who gives the official spiel: “Loyalty is a big factor in our lives…And we teach how to display that.…One of the big focuses is how to positively impact the household and family…It’s a pretty positive experience.”
  

  Loyalty, family life, positivity! How nice!

  Of course, we know the alarming things that are really being taught at the convention. Rather than a positive experience, it is guilt inducing, apocalyptic and divisive to family life.

  I would love to see more newspaper articles that did some actual objective reporting, rather than puff pieces.
  

  Why do journalists write these puff pieces? Why do they tend not do a little digging and do a more objective article? What’s in it for them?
  

  One of the articles above highlighted how the conventions would bring into the city $64.5 million dollars. Does the money effect how the newspapers report on the conventions?

  I’ve no answers here. I’m just asking. And what can be done to remedy this?
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  Baptized niece crowned prom queen. Could her dad loose his MS appt?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my niece (not thru my brother but rather my wife) had been talking about going to her prom.

  the family had privately been somewhat doubtful that she would be allowed to go.

  the problem was that they kept promising she would be allowed but history has shown us that her parents tend to get her excited about things and then drop the denial on her at the last minute.

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  Not typical at all when I was in. I remember at an assembly a young lady gave her experience of wrestling with the desire to go, but ultimately not going. It's sad looking back.
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  The Ray Franz Saga

  by snugglebunny in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm just curious as to how it all happened.. to explain.

  many years back, before ex-jw websites, i called on a local lady in order to design an extension to her already enormous house.

  she was a young, voluptuous gal, married to a much older local business man who spared little expense in order to give his young wife whatever her heart desired.. we chatted for ages.

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  Fisherman: have you ever read Crisis of Conscience?
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  Are there more ex-witnesses than current witnesses?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for years the society has said that over 40,000 a year are disfellowshipped.

  add to that the 10's of thousands who simply disassociate or fade.... so by that logic, would it be correct to assume there are actually more former witnesses on the earth than the number of current active witnesses ?

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  And 2 out of 3 who were raised JW are no longer...

  This org likely has the highest turnover rate of them all.
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  Baptized niece crowned prom queen. Could her dad loose his MS appt?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so my niece (not thru my brother but rather my wife) had been talking about going to her prom.

  the family had privately been somewhat doubtful that she would be allowed to go.

  the problem was that they kept promising she would be allowed but history has shown us that her parents tend to get her excited about things and then drop the denial on her at the last minute.

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  A ministerial servant father, a pioneer mother...and she still got to go to prom! Good for her!