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  Could we ever see a GB member disassociate?

  by pleaseresearch in

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  we saw it with raymond franz.

  but do you think we could ever see one of the current gb members or future ones, make the same choice?.

  to leave, and expose it..

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  Londo111

  He never disassociated.

  They disfellowshipped him for eating with his disassociated employer/landlord, something that was not a "disfellowshipping offense" just a year before.
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  Why do EX-JW's try to argue the bible/doctrine with JW's?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  2. bible

  i've watched a few judicial committee videos on youtube.

  they all start out great but eventually the person starts to bring out bible teachings and doctrine.

  i understand that 99% of their teachings are complete crap, but to me it's a pointless battle.. as a jw growing up i remember being on countless calls where a jw would argue the trinity with the householder.

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  Londo111

  There is not a one-size-fits-all approach. And if people do not want to research on their own, they are not going to wake up.

  I assumed even when I was DFed that even if the Bible was not divinely inspired, JWs had the closest interpretation of it. I was shocked to learn how many things were not really "Bible-based" and fell apart on examination or was just inconsistent. For instance, take "door to door", the Great Crowd/Other Sheep, ect... I thought 587/586 BC was fuzzy historically, some sort of guess by archaeologists, and that 607 BC was the date the Bible pointed too.

  It's all part of fact-checking. But unless a person wants to confirm these things on their own, it will all go right past them.
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  New York Community Trust and Watchtower grants

  by OrphanCrow in

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  the new york community trust.

  about the trustthrough the generosity of new yorkers who have set up charitable funds with us, we are able to make grants for a huge range of charitable activity so important to the well-being and vitality of our city.

  we are new york city's community foundation, and one of the largest funders of city nonprofits.since 1924, the trust has helped make donors' charitable dreams come true by funding the nonprofits that make our city a vital and secure place.. watchtower bible & tract society of new york - grant recipient for the following years:.

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  Londo111

  Wow...money down the toilet.
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  2002 Dateline NBC Pedophile episode...

  by juandefiero in

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  2. child-abuse

  does anyone have a copy or link to these videos?

  it seems to have disappeared off of youtube.. (see below).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjqvpduyya.

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  Londo111

  I agree. Commenting so I can follow the thread in case it turns up.
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  "New light"?

  by winstonchurchill in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2016/man-with-inkhorn/.

  so i guess baptism is no longer the "mark for survival".. as a matter of fact, that key aspect of the 'old light' is not even acknowledged in this article.. they are just publishing new understanding without even bothering to explain the full extent of the change, hoping nobody will remember how it was... and they may be right about that..

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  Londo111

  It looks like the Ezekiel/Jeremiah/Isaiah "class" is now referring to the Governing Body alone.

  "During the time leading up to the destruction of Jerusalem, Ezekiel served as a watchman along with Jeremiah, just as Isaiah had previously done. Today, Jehovah is using a small group of his anointed servants to feed his people and warn others before the outbreak of the great tribulation. In turn, all of Christ’s domestics have a share in sounding the warning."
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  NWT...how accurate?

  by Theburstbubble in

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  i'm sorry if i'm covering old ground here.

  but is the nwt bible a credible translation of the scriptures?

  i'm not asking if you believe in the bible or not.

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  Londo111

  They have massaged verses that made them doctrinally uncomfortable...especially when a passage supported the deity of Christ.
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  Russell v Russell: the 1908 court transcript

  by Londo111 in

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  2. scandals

  does anyone know how to obtain a copy?.

  i have poked around pennsylvania websites, attempting to figure out how to obtain the transcript, but recently, i have it on good authority that the transcript went missing from the pennsylvania archives over 30 years ago.

  it is likely that there is vested interest (jws, bible students) to keep this hidden..

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  Londo111

  I've met with nothing but dead ends.
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  QUICK! Questions to ask MARK SANDERSON!!!!!!!

  by TeenageInsider in

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  quickly!!.

  mark sanderson at a regional assembly.. i will find him and ask him questings.. please quickly leave questions you want me to ask.. i will record and post updates!!!!.

  hurry..

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  Londo111

  Good work, Teenage Insider.
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  Toasting is Pagan - How many contradictions can fit in 2 pages, I found 5?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower 2007 feb 15 pp.30-31 explains why jehovah's witnesses are not to toast.

  what is astounding is that for each point they then go on an explain why the point is irrelevant, yet still conclude toasting is wrong.

  what did people think when reading this?

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  Londo111

  I remember reading it and being confused. And not agreeing at all with the conclusions of the article.
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  Freddy Franz, One of the smartest men of his day????

  by DwainBowman in

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  2. beliefs

  back in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according to, the guinness book of records , freddy franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world.

  dose anyone else remember this?

  i remember trying to look it up, but never found anything in print, and ii point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had told about it, and he wouldn't lie!

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  Londo111

  It has been speculated by those who knew him that he was on the Asperger's spectrum. He had a hard time relating to people for understanding what was socially appropriate. He dressed in an outlandish manner. From what I understand, he made a total mess when eating. He would evidently become fixated on a point and zone anything else out. And he did seem to have a photographic memory.