.....the truth was not the truth... ?
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When the October and November 2011 Watchtowers had articles about 607BC, I decided to dig deeper to ensure what they were saying was correct. Not only was it wrong, but the way they referenced outside experts (partial quotations, ect), showed they were practicing outright deceit.
No 607, no 1914. No 1914, no 1919. The whole belief system falls apart.
so i've been a protestant for most of my life, it's how i was raised, but recently i started questioning my faith more and more and now i feel like my beliefs resemble that of a jehovas witness rather than a protestant.
i don't know any jehovas witnesses, so i was just wondering how a lot of you found the religion and adapted to it?.
I was born-in, the third generation from both sides of my family.
What beliefs of yours resemble the JWs?
What if you encounter beliefs from this group that you do not agree with?
For instance, do you believe Jesus began his invisible presence in 1914 and that in 1919, he selected the leaders of this organization to be his faithful slave, his only channel of dispensing spiritual direction?
Do you believe if a person does not recognize the Governing Body as the Faithful Slave, one is doomed to eternal destruction at Armageddon, along with seven billion other non-JWs?
If you or your children needed a blood transfusion in an emergency to save you life, would you deny the transfusion and risk death?
If any of your friends or family would become JWs and disagreed with the Governing Body on a matter, or decided to leave the organization, would you shun them, not even saying hello?
meetings are boring for young kids and old but i'm going to focus on young kids 5 or 8.. i think is unfair that young kids get punished for falling asleep or zoning out.. as meetings are not as boring but i have to go to school the next day and staying up till 10pm isn't the best i can't get out of going.. but think of the young kids that dont even understand most of the teachings.. i know most on the site are adults but i heard of adults falling asleep..
The vast majority of JWs, adults and children, find the meetings boring. I suspect even the Governing Body finds them boring.
expect a day of fluff, more bells and whistles and boasting.
they are not going to throw shade on their glorious day.
but shortly thereafter when everyone's feeling good about themselves expect the hammer to come down during a morning worship broadcast..
We shall see what we shall see.
from a friends facebook page yesterday.... .
translation"energy saving speil" = sales talk by somebody trying to get you to switch electricity providers"dodging the big issue dude" = trying to avoid the man selling the magazine for homeless people"switching sides to be baked by the talk talk folk" = crossing the street only to be harassed by the telephone company salespeople"the johos outside the old tiser building" = the jws outside the old newspaper office.
"street trolls" = priceless!.
well, we are studying the book of daniel in the meetings now, and this week was the reading about the four beasts and the goat etc.. i got suprised that the sources didn't include any page of the wt book pay attention to daniel's prophecy,.
my only guess is that they have already changed something too big to take the risk of a average witness go searching and start to make questions about their allegedly inspiration..
From my understanding, it is out of print.
Much of it was a bandaid fix to the information in Fred Franz's Your Will Be Done book.
so in the october jw broadcast, there is a "morning worship" segment in which g. jackson goes to great lengths to explain how the term "those taking the lead" are not "leaders".. the terms are exactly equivalent, of course, but jackson, with a wink & smirk, pats himself on the back for his own cleverness on how different they really are.it's just so bizarrely absurd.. imagine if such tortured reasoning were applied to other areas..... -------------------------------------.
restaurant manager: i'm sorry, the only position we have open is for dishwasher.
applicant: that's insulting!
To co-opt what Ray Franz said on another matter, "It is a distinction without a difference."
hey everyone,.
i haven't posted for some time.
i've been busy with life in the real world.
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hey everyone,.
i haven't posted for some time.
i've been busy with life in the real world.
The “Spiritual endangerment” endangerment card is sometimes played when one mate wakes up to TTATT, often at the suggestion of the elders. This goes beyond what is in writing, but for an indoctrinated JW, nothing screamed danger louder than someone labeled an “apostate”.
it's interesting that when watchtower is referred to as the borg, it immediately brings to mind the scenes where individuals such as captain piccard are held prisoner within a vast collective hive type prison and unable to leave.
they are then turned into drones.
in fact here is how wikipedia explains it.. the borg are a fictional alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the star trek franchise.
Sometimes I have to wonder if any of the writers of Star Trek were ex-JW.
Last night, I was watching the Voyager episode Infinite Regress. I forgot exactly what, but something Seven of Nine said about becoming an individual seemed to resonate.
