my sarcasm will get me df'd one day.
after being disgusted by the bs of the sunday meeting, i chatted with one inactive brother came back for that one meeting.
i can't exactly remember how it came up, but he told me and a sister whose a close friend of mine that she shouldn't be so uptight, we're no longer under the mosaic law.
It becomes a matter of interpretation of what 'principles' the Mosaic law was getting at...and the only ones that are allowed to derive those principles are the Governing Body
And as Ray Franz said the difference in Watchtower theology because principles and law are a "distinction without a difference". After all, people can be disfellowshipped and shunned for not adhering to the principles the Governing Body comes up with.
can jws read publications by other churches?
or by atheists?
i've always heard these are apostate materials.
It's called Information Control.
i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..
They've gone from 'solid food' to 'milk'.
Not that it any of it was healthy to begin with.
their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
I was on a train that once made a temporary stop around Washington DC. A Bible Student come aboard briefly to hand out tracks. I was a JW then and tried to pretend to be listening to my IPOD. He was quiet persistent and I took a track to get rid of him. I felt guilty about it because: (1) Watchtower said not to take literature (2) The Bible Students were somehow related to the "evil slave".
i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.
out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.
for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.
As has been mentioned, this is the exact reason for the congregation re-orgs. They will fill the Kingdom Halls by mergers and then sell the rest. This will give the illusion of growth.
It is possible that Believer has been to a Kingdom Hall that has been through a re-org.
back in the "good old days", i would look for people in my territory, especially ministers in order to debate the trinity with them.
it was my pet subject that i had spent many hours over several years researching.
i was such a good anti-trinity apologist that i was actually disappointed with the trinity brochure when it came out.
There is more scriptural “evidence” to argue for a Trinity then there is for the Overlapping Generation.
The key thing to understand is different Bible writers had different ideas of who Jesus was. The writer of Mark had believed a very human messiah adopted as God’s son, whereas the writer of John clearly believed that Jesus was fully divine, while a distinct person from the Father and the Holy Spirit.
To 'disprove' the Trinity, or to 'prove' it, one must span different Bible books written by different writers.
To discount the Overlapping Generation of Matthew 24:34, one simply goes to Matthew 1, within the same book of the Bible, by the same writer.
their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.
you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.
if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.
Having learned at the same time about Russell and the Second Adventist background where the Bible Students sprouted from, never in a million years.
as i was driving past a certain gas station today, i recalled that the family who own it are called on by a friend of mine, and in a territory where it's hard to find interest.
it reminded me of an incident months back when this friend, brother d, discovered that another friend, brother b, was calling on that family too.
hey, gotta make your time.. those two went at it.
Happen to me too. Nobody blew up about it...we were doing RVs in the car group and the other couple ended up calling on the same house I was going to. I ceded it to them.
People take magazines mostly to end the encounter...most JWs realize this, but are then obligated to make them a return visit. Some people just take the magazines to be nice and support the apparently friendly JWs who sometimes come to their door.
of publisher numbers go up its a sign jehovah must be blessing the work if they go down it a sign the end must be near .
if there's an earthquake it a sign.if there's a war it's a sign ..i'm sure donald trump is sign.
karter.
If you look real hard at the picture on page 42 of the latest study publication, fold it, put it in a mirror, and squint, you will see the Reptilians remote control the Governing Body, who are merely robots, from a UFO orbiting Planet X. But they are not part of the Illuminati...that's just crazy talk!
of publisher numbers go up its a sign jehovah must be blessing the work if they go down it a sign the end must be near .
if there's an earthquake it a sign.if there's a war it's a sign ..i'm sure donald trump is sign.
karter.
I’ve been thinking about projection more and more lately. Sometimes people mentally project onto external events, objects or people qualities that are simply within the mind. Those who are indoctrinated project their indoctrination and everything can be a sign.
Like the weather facilitating the printing of the Revised NWT (never mind the printing mistake in the header of Numbers). Or a hurricane delivering needed sand (never mind those people and homes destroyed). Or how about those evil mentally diseased “apostates” (never mind they are just normal people who just happen to not share JW beliefs anymore).
Of course, I’ve noticed this as well in some “apostates” when it comes to projecting on the organization any number of wild conspiracy theories.
