Posts by Londo111

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Where Does It Say JWs Can't Read Pubs By Other Churches?

by Cold Steel in

can jws read publications by other churches?

or by atheists?

i've always heard these are apostate materials.

Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

by minimus in

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friends

i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

Londo111

They've gone from 'solid food' to 'milk'.

Not that it any of it was healthy to begin with.

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Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

by Rainbow_Troll in

their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

I was on a train that once made a temporary stop around Washington DC. A Bible Student come aboard briefly to hand out tracks. I was a JW then and tried to pretend to be listening to my IPOD. He was quiet persistent and I took a track to get rid of him. I felt guilty about it because: (1) Watchtower said not to take literature (2) The Bible Students were somehow related to the "evil slave".

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Meeting Attendance levels

by freddo in

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friends

i attended a sunday meeting today after missing a couple due to a bout of chronic apathy.

out of 74 publishers we had a grand total of 33. wonderful.

for those that attend, how are you finding the numbers?.

Londo111

As has been mentioned, this is the exact reason for the congregation re-orgs. They will fill the Kingdom Halls by mergers and then sell the rest. This will give the illusion of growth.

It is possible that Believer has been to a Kingdom Hall that has been through a re-org.

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JWs take a page out of the Trinitarian playbook to support the generation of 1914

by OneGenTwoGroups in

back in the "good old days", i would look for people in my territory, especially ministers in order to debate the trinity with them.

it was my pet subject that i had spent many hours over several years researching.

i was such a good anti-trinity apologist that i was actually disappointed with the trinity brochure when it came out.

Londo111

There is more scriptural “evidence” to argue for a Trinity then there is for the Overlapping Generation.

The key thing to understand is different Bible writers had different ideas of who Jesus was. The writer of Mark had believed a very human messiah adopted as God’s son, whereas the writer of John clearly believed that Jesus was fully divine, while a distinct person from the Father and the Holy Spirit.

To 'disprove' the Trinity, or to 'prove' it, one must span different Bible books written by different writers.

To discount the Overlapping Generation of Matthew 24:34, one simply goes to Matthew 1, within the same book of the Bible, by the same writer.

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Have any ex-jws considered joining the Bible Students?

by Rainbow_Troll in

their fundamental beliefs are much like jehovah's witnesses sans the paranoia, authoritarianism, stifling rules, and end-times enthusiasm.

you don't even have to become a bible student to be saved, you could be an idol worshipping heathen and still get resurrected in the milenium.

if i still believed in the divine inspiration of the scriptures, i would be a bible student.

Londo111

Having learned at the same time about Russell and the Second Adventist background where the Bible Students sprouted from, never in a million years.

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When 2 JWs have the same call...

by schnell in

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friends

as i was driving past a certain gas station today, i recalled that the family who own it are called on by a friend of mine, and in a territory where it's hard to find interest.

it reminded me of an incident months back when this friend, brother d, discovered that another friend, brother b, was calling on that family too.

hey, gotta make your time.. those two went at it.

Londo111

Happen to me too. Nobody blew up about it...we were doing RVs in the car group and the other couple ended up calling on the same house I was going to. I ceded it to them.

People take magazines mostly to end the encounter...most JWs realize this, but are then obligated to make them a return visit. Some people just take the magazines to be nice and support the apparently friendly JWs who sometimes come to their door.

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Is everything a sign to the jw's?

by karter in

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friends

of publisher numbers go up its a sign jehovah must be blessing the work if they go down it a sign the end must be near .

if there's an earthquake it a sign.if there's a war it's a sign ..i'm sure donald trump is sign.

karter.

Londo111

If you look real hard at the picture on page 42 of the latest study publication, fold it, put it in a mirror, and squint, you will see the Reptilians remote control the Governing Body, who are merely robots, from a UFO orbiting Planet X. But they are not part of the Illuminati...that's just crazy talk!

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Is everything a sign to the jw's?

by karter in

jw
friends

of publisher numbers go up its a sign jehovah must be blessing the work if they go down it a sign the end must be near .

if there's an earthquake it a sign.if there's a war it's a sign ..i'm sure donald trump is sign.

karter.

Londo111

I’ve been thinking about projection more and more lately. Sometimes people mentally project onto external events, objects or people qualities that are simply within the mind. Those who are indoctrinated project their indoctrination and everything can be a sign.

Like the weather facilitating the printing of the Revised NWT (never mind the printing mistake in the header of Numbers). Or a hurricane delivering needed sand (never mind those people and homes destroyed). Or how about those evil mentally diseased “apostates” (never mind they are just normal people who just happen to not share JW beliefs anymore).

Of course, I’ve noticed this as well in some “apostates” when it comes to projecting on the organization any number of wild conspiracy theories.

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Do you still go to meetings?

by NikL in

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friends

as i was sitting in the meeting last night i thought about this question.. sometimes it feels really lonely because i don't connect with most others in the congregation and i have to be so careful with the ones with whom i do associate.. quick rundown on my life...got baptized at 17...married at 20...became inactive at 28 wife still active though...came back to meetings with her 20 years later just to keep her quiet and see if they had changed (for a while i actually thought they had)...now i am still inactive and haven't gone out in service or anything.

i just go to meetings with my wife who is happy as a lark to have me there with her...just go to meetings and think...and think...and think.... anyway, i just wondered if there are any out there like me who are going to meetings and nothing else?.

Londo111

It's been over four years since I've been to a meeting.

It's great! :)