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  Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

  * he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

  he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

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  The wordplay is interesting: He discerned that Christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.

  In a certain way, the sentence is technically true. Russell taught Christ had returned invisibly in 1874 and he believed the Gentile times would end in 1914. Of course, it is highly misleading...the rank and file would read this as Russell teaching the invisible presence would begin in 1914.

  But then again, they just said they could err. They just demonstrated it.

  
  
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  JW's and the forgotten Jesus

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

  but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

  they mainly talk about jehovah.

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  Londo111

  In Watchtower theology, Jesus is the most outstanding member of God's organization, but still a member. The organization is still greater in this mindset.
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  so let me get this straight.. the borg moves into their new corporate country club....

  by nowwhat? in

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  with their luxurious lakeside condos.

  takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.

  but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.

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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Sarim
  
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  so let me get this straight.. the borg moves into their new corporate country club....

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with their luxurious lakeside condos.

  takes all the congregations funds promising new kingdom halls.

  but instead starts selling off kingdom halls ..then makes faithful old brothers and sisters drive 20-30 miles to another one, and .kicks out half the bethelites for only only tech savy college educated ones.can barely afford to send out printed publications anymore.

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  Now as they were going along the road, someone said to him: “I will follow you wherever you go.” But Jesus said to him: “Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.”--Luke 9:57-58

  The Governing Body is willing to follow Jesus...as long as he leads them to a swanky new quarters in upstate New York and they are given comfy pillows to lay their heads. Clear to the buffet they follow! Such models of self-sacrifice and martyrdom!
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  Comparing WT Library - 2011 vs. 2012

  by MeanMrMustard in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a couple of years ago, i participated in a thread on this site comparing the old nwt (1984) to the new nwt (2013).

  i was able to produce a nwt mash up pdf showing the side-by-side differences between the two versions of the nwt.

  herethis site claims it will hold the file for download for a long time.

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  Amazing work!
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  The Psychology Of Trolling

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2640059937&feature=iv&src_vid=hv9weqlebuo&v=5gqhtlbp6iy.

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  Very interesting.
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  What are the costs of literature cart witnessing?

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.

  we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.

  it gives us visibility and availability.

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  For some reason, I got an email solicitation for one of these signs that go with the cart. I was curious and asked how much. Evidently it is $20-25 for a sign.
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  It was never, ever, a warning work, was it?

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  most witnesses i knew were exteeemly reluctant to go out in the ministry.

  but when they did, they were simply scraping by, eager to avoid conflict and just do their hour or so speaking to lonely old ladies or widowed old men.

  placing magazines in a car group, doing route calls, plodding along in the utter boredom of their responsibility to get some time on a report by the last day of the month.. this was never a warning work.

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  Very good OP.

  If only JWs actually went around warning people, the public would instantly recognize that they are an apocalyptic cult.

  The message is moderated and watered down to be appealing. But even so, actions speak louder than words. JWs have made wasting time a science.
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  Were Conventions, Asemblies and the Memorials boring to you?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  conventions always just seemed like more of a vacation to me than anything else, especially if you had to travel out of town for it, but definitely were exhausting especially toward the end of each day.

  for some reason i didn't mind the special and circuit assemblies too much, probably because they seemed like more of a social event than anything else and only 1-2 days.

  the memorial always was kind of boring to me.

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  Most JWs find all of this boring.
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  Christadelphians the closest to JW?

  by ab.ortega in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am curious as to what current religion is similar in beliefs and organization to jw's.

  i've only come as far as christadelphians.

  are there any others you know of?.

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  The biggest differences seem to be the Christadelphians do not believe in the preexistence of Jesus, nor do they believe in a literal Satan.

  Of course, really the biggest core belief of JWs is this: In 1919, Jesus chose the Watchtower leaders as the one and only channel through which God communicates his will--salvation through the impending Armageddon depends on obeying this channel now and in the future.

  Every other JW belief is window dressing.