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  Two Year Delay in Building New KHs - What Is the Real Impact?

  by committeechairman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  where are all these kingdom halls that were going to start being built?

  the rbc arrangement was officially announced as an arrangement that was ending in the united states branch territory in a letter on january 24, 2014 (although this letter is no longer listed on jw.org).

  this means that 23 months have passed since the announcement of the ldc taking over and "acceleration" of kingdom hall builds.. what has happened in the meantime with kh construction?

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  Some mysterious things are going on...

  The Chariot does all sorts of crazy maneuvers these days.
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  Is this the earliest WT reference to 1975?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i thought that the 1975 thing started in the mid to late 60's, but it seems the seeds were sown two decades earlier.is this the earliest reference to it?.

  18 how many today are awake to the fact that the lord christ jesus, by his resurrection of the faithful bride members that slept in death, is taking his "bride" unto his father's house and the marriage of the lamb has begun' .... they do not say, 'it is a long time yet to the wind-up, and, according to the present understanding of bible chronology, six thousand years of human history will end first in the coming seventies and till then it is a long stretch to serve the lord continuously and undividedly.'.

  ... they keep their eye and heart on jehovah's kingdom, and not on the time clock.

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  Excellent research, Splash!

  That's the real difference between an "apostate" and a JW.
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  Feeling rejected

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.

  however, i'm in the process of becoming one.

  in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.

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  Londo111

  Please reread Matthew 24:14. Note that it contains no command.

  I believe the geers are turning in your mind. Keep taking in information from all sources.
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Londo111

  If a Scientologist was opening his eyes and seeing the problems in his organization, what if he asked you, “What is the alternative to Scientology?” Or fill in the blank…the People’s Temple, the Branch Davidians, Heaven’s Gate, the Moonies, the LDS church.

  All of these groups claim to supply absolute truth or to be the closest to it. When people start to wake up, some seek something like it, or another group that claims to know all the answers.

  In her book Troublemaker, Leah Remini was deeply troubled by the problems of the Church of Scientology. But her first thought was the reform it, to reform it. She still believed in the teachings of LRH. Eventually she realized the problem was LRH.
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  The Elders are Coming Help!

  by LaurenM in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the elders keep bugging me and pestering me about having a meeting with them to "introduce me to my new congregation" for some reason (do any ex elders know what that even means??).

  i keep postponing and making excuses and they are getting more and more aggressive.

  i finally agreed for them to come over today, but really don't want to..should i hide from them again?

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  Is the circuit overseer coming soon?
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  How did Matthew Use the Word "Generation"?

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another "generation" thread....i know!

  when splane wanted a scripture that demonstrated the bible's use of the word he went all the way back to moses and used ex.

  1.6. he could have stayed in the same book and used matthew chapter 1,written by the same hand.

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  Londo111

  As demonstrated by the opening post, it is a teaching that can be demolished in less than a minute.
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  What happened with Dr. Applewhite's supplementary report? Mistery solved

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  542 on 16 august 2015, dr applewhite wrote to the legal representative of watchtower.

  australia and advised that she was unable to prepare a supplementary statement due.

  to other commitments.

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  Londo111

  Take the money and run! :)
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  The money question...

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am intrigued to know if there is truly any evidence of financial irregularities in the jehovah's witness organisation or if any one or group are raking off funds or benefitting financially...?.

  whilst i disagree wholeheartedly with most of their teachings and practices, dogmatism, legalism and superiority complex, i don't honestly think there's anyone making millions at the top.

  yes you could say that the gb are comfortably off, don't have to pay bills etc but they do actually get up in the morning and 'work', they aren't going off in private jets to tropical islands or driving bentleys.

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  Londo111

  "Ray Franz never mentioned financial issues"

  Ray was in the Writing Department, thus finances would not be in his domain. His concern was Scripture, Christian qualities, ect...
  
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  An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.

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  Londo111

  I’ve seen nothing in this discussion that is about convincing anyone to dislike, mistrust, or condemn an entire group of people (Jehovah’s Witnesses). I personally love Jehovah’s Witnesses and want to see them live the best life possible. I wish them the best!

  It is the leadership of Jehovah’s Witnesses that is the problem, the source of the teachings and practices and deceit. And it has led to many serious issues that both Jehovah’s Witnesses and those on the outside need to be aware of. For instance, google Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Australian Royal Commission.

  Every group has some painful experiences, but it is a matter of proportion and degree. The Jehovah’s Witnesses organization (not the people), the Church of Scientology (not the people), the Moonies, the LDS church, and so forth have a magnitude of pain not found in mainstream religion.

  In any of these groups: where there is smoke, there is fire. Do not hate the people in these groups, but people need to be aware of the organizations themselves. There are many victims and their stories should not be invalidated.
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  An Atheist Visits A Kingdom Hall

  by Bangalore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://nerdinthebrain.com/2015/01/25/why-i-spent-my-morning-in-a-kingdom-hall-partying-with-jehovahs-witnesses/.

  he seems to have quite a positive view of jw's.. bangalore.

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  Londo111

  Unfortunately, my experience is all too common and this forum is full of like stories from all geographic locations.

  It depends how you leave. Obviously, those who are disfellowshipped or who disassociate, they will face shunning from friends and family (not living in the same home). Not so much as a hello or an email. Some who have formally disassociated have expressed regret doing so later.

  However many on this forum have opted for gradually fading and distancing themselves from the organization. If JWs believe you are merely inactive, family relations can continue. Of course, you simply never speak about your doubts (or certainties) or research about the organization and never be seen breaking Watchtower rules (like celebrating holidays). This is what I tried to do.

  Even faded people do face cooling of relationships from friends and sometimes family. And there is a constant pressure to “return to Jehovah”, that is the organization. You constantly have to watch out not to say the wrong thing or be caught doing something a JW cannot do (like a birthday, Christmas, attending a church).

  But then, what do you do if a family member point blank asks, “Are you an apostate? Do you believe the Governing Body is the Faithful and Discreet slave?” You might try to word things in a non-threatening way and establish some common ground. But it comes a time when you have to choose to be honest or dishonest.

  If a family member is perceived as “apostate”, they can easily be cut off. “Spiritually stoned” as it were. Even in the same household, people have found themselves kicked out of their own home, divorces have occurred, jobs lost.

  There is nothing a non-JW can do to convince a JW to associate with a “mentally-diseased” apostate, even family.