Posts by Londo111

one of china's most popular tv shows, it can have up to 50 million viewers.. its chrissie time, so we can be sentimental (smile).. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teic1sk8epy.

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Londo111

Maybe it’s me, but if it takes chasing and convincing, then the relationship would seem doomed from the start.

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How is assembly / district cost figured out?

by EndofMysteries in

when they annouce that a 1 day assembly cost $30,000, do they pull that number out of their hienie?

i'm sure somebody on this site had been part of the paperwork trail for that.

for a building that's paid off, do they really have that many expenses and add them all up and divide by weeks of the month or make up a high inflated number to send a big bonus to wt?.

Londo111

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/62001/1/Circuit-Accounts-Servants-Confesses-how-the-SCAM-WORKS

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Thank You From Captives of a Concept

by Cameron_Don in

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friends

i wanted to thank so many who have taken the time and effort to read and recommend captives of a concept over the past decade.. for those who have not seen it, there is an interview on youtube that may have helped some witnesses begin the process of getting the sense of the way the watchtower religion actually works.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5trkrpia-3q.

don cameron.

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Londo111

No...thank you!

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"The Friends"

by FeelingFree in

i have only come across this term very recently on jwn and in an "apostate" video i watched yesterday.

never have i heard anyone refer to jw's as "the friends" here in the uk.

is it just used in america?.

Londo111

Yep, common here in the mid-Atlantic of the US.

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Media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York

by Londo111 in

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

see last item:.

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from abc news new york".

Londo111

http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=A136641

See last item:

"media request to record/broadcast oral argument; from ABC News New York"

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Non-JWs: Concerned friend or family is getting involved with Jehovahs Witnesses?

by Londo111 in

dear non-jw:.

do you have a friend or family member who is studying?

there are definitely valid reasons to be concerned, be it shunning, the many failed doomsday predictions, the risks of refusing blood transfusions, the organizations unrepentant mishandling of child abuse, the stance of higher education, holidays, and everyone outside the organization.. however, how you express your concern to them could make all the difference.

Londo111

At this point in the indoctrination, it could possibly be viewed as “apostate” and from his viewpoint, the worst thing that possibly could be forwarded to him. An Al Qaeda video might get better reception from an indoctrinated JW. I suspect your son would balk at each point and say, “We aren’t trying to convert people…it’s a choice…you can use your own Bible…we read the Bible in context.” And on some level, he would mean it. This series is strictly for non-JWs and those early on in their study.

Of course, every now and then, a JW might go through a person of questioning or curiosity, and take a peek at what is out there. In that case, I believe it’s important that what they find doesn’t scare them away.

I know myself having accidently stumbled upon some websites in the past, all black with flames and crazy allegations about conspiracies. It basically scared me back to the fold.

Even when I was waking up, I was disinclined to trust even the most factual information out there, sites like JWFacts. I assumed from the start these sights contained lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations. Over time, I realized sites like JWFacts were 100% truthful, but it was an uphill battle.

Addenum:

I’m not sure if born-in vs convert may make a difference. In a poll, 2 out of 3 who were raised a JW no longer identify as such.

Not every study converts. In fact, very few do. Somewhere along the way, most drop off, either because on not accepting teachings from the get-go, or the JW lifestyle being too intense and they do not want to radically alter their life (no holidays, door to door, ect). However, for the few that clear these hurdles, they are truly hooked.

Just look at members of other cults, like Scientology. Many of them, like Tom Cruise, are converts.

Consider what Terry says in this thread:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/289023/1/UBER-WITNESS-THE-ELITE-FORCE-a-study-in-how-a-fanatic-is-created

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Non-JWs: Concerned friend or family is getting involved with Jehovahs Witnesses?

by Londo111 in

dear non-jw:.

do you have a friend or family member who is studying?

there are definitely valid reasons to be concerned, be it shunning, the many failed doomsday predictions, the risks of refusing blood transfusions, the organizations unrepentant mishandling of child abuse, the stance of higher education, holidays, and everyone outside the organization.. however, how you express your concern to them could make all the difference.

Londo111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLuRYDFa0UA&index=8&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgAPkxpoL6pOB0CdY5anHbLC