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  Hmmmm

  by openminded in

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  i am reviewing my notes for a psych.

  exam and am going over the syptoms of mental illness and schizophrenia in particular.

  i am noticing something that may be well known to most of you educated folks.. symptom 1. delusions of grandour(god has me on his speed dial)(miracle wheat).

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  I am reviewing my notes for a psych. exam and am going over the syptoms of mental illness and schizophrenia in particular. I am noticing something that may be well known to most of you educated folks.

  Symptom 1. Delusions of grandour(God has me on his speed dial)(miracle wheat)

  2. Loss of ability to seperate reality from fantasy(millions now living will never die)

  3. Problems adapting to community(thanksgiving is evil)

  4. Delusions of persecution(what can I say)

  5. Working delusions into a belief system(ok shooting fish in a barrel is not fair)

  I wonder if the current members of the gov. body are just trying to play with the hand they were dealt or if they to are delusional?

  Any comment?

  OM
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  The eventuality of man is the same as animals

  by OlderTom in

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  was it ezicle who said the eventuality of man is the same as for the animal, as one dies so does the other.

  or something like that.. man has to die because he sinned, that's the price one has to pay.

  what sins have animals committed?

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  I understand limits and laws. Jump out of a tall building and you will die. (its not the fall that kills you its the sudden stop) I dont understand a father or creator killing its offspring(for whatever reason). Animals die but the species lives on, humans are no different. Think about it. My son is here to replace me! If Im worried about living forever, I will have to instill qualities in him that I would like to live on after I die.
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  The eventuality of man is the same as animals

  by OlderTom in

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  was it ezicle who said the eventuality of man is the same as for the animal, as one dies so does the other.

  or something like that.. man has to die because he sinned, that's the price one has to pay.

  what sins have animals committed?

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  Gopher

  Wouldnt it seem logical that Adam and Eve would have to understand and or be familiar with the concept death if they were to have that as a conequence for sin? To me it only seems fair to hold someone accountable if they truly understand the consequnce of their actions.

  And didnt God tell them that they would die the very day they ate from the tree? So whats up with that? They didnt die. They lived on for quite a while. So Im confused evidently Gods definition of"Die the very day" is different. Maybe they(Adam) wanted to die(isnt that a possibilty too?)? Maybe if they were aware of the true consequences(supposed human suffering) they would have reconsidered.

  I am starting to lean toward the thought that the idea of sin is really just an excuse for our bad choices(or why we make them). Its nice to have an interesting legend that allows us to have a reason for why we do some of the bone headed things we do.

  Having a child I realize that when kids are young, and you try to hold them accountable for some mistake they made,and I ask why, they just shrug their shoulder and say "I dunno". And as far as they are concerned, thats true no excuses. As we get older a realize that mistakes are almost always a result of a bad choice, we begin to make excuses and rationalize our behavior.

  Another point I grapple with, is what was the point of testing Adam? Is not death the worst possible punishment? What did it prove? God can kill us? ok so then we are dead. The fact that we can bother God to the point that he needs to kill us makes me wonder what sort of love he ever really had(so conditional). I kill mosquitos when they bug me(cause I dont love them) is that the same thing God did to us?

  And another thing. God used swords in the garden. Whats up with that. Bizaar.
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  An eye for an eye?

  by expatbrit in

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  i was reading about how an internet company wants to transmit timothy mcveigh's execution over the internet on a pay-per-view basis.. it disturbed me that society appears to be drifting backwards in this regard, that not only are there people who want to make money from this situation, there are also many people apparently willing to view it for entertainment purposes.. of course, nothing would pack in the historical crowds like a public execution.

  but the gradual enlightenment of society made public executions a footnote of history, and the death penalty appeared to be following.. and that made me consider what my attitude is to the death penalty itself.. in wt land the death penalty is considered to be "divine justice".

  the bible brims to the covers with accounts of executions using the most excrutiating methods, such as stoning.

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  No. Stats prove that the death penalty does not curb violent crime(God must not have those stats yet). Although it may get you elected depending on where you live(can you say Bible belt). I say part of the cost of society is to house dangerous members but to kill them only sends a double standard. That is that the killing was okay but your reason for doing it was wrong. How bout this- There is no good reason to kill. Murder is murder. Is this confusing? If you murder you go to prison.

  This is something I grapple with in regards to the Bible. It seems the idea of murder or death as a solution to anything is flawed. Resorting to kill another human for any reason seems to go against basic sense. The more I read the Bible the more I see it as a crutch to those who choose not look for better solutions to lifes dilemas(laziness? fear?). If its bad to God its bad to me so Ill just kill it(cause Gods gonna anyway).
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  Window Cleaners?

  by nicolaou in

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  like a lot of others here, i gave higher education a miss when i left school (1980).

  under the encouragement of the society i pioneered for three years instead!.

  now i clean windows for a living.

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  I did. But Im only 27. Its actually not all bad. I seem to pay better attention in class now that Im a bit older. Maybe it was all those hot babes that distracted me(oh wait they still do). Maybe Im just more mature(ha ha) and ready for the responsibilty of college studies.
  Anyway I am on track to get a B.A. next year, and am lightly throwing the idea around of furthering my study into the area of law. Hopefully I can time it out right and get in on the class action law suits coming down on the societies blood policy. Ill donate all my fees to charity of course.
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  Apostates' Night Out

  by Gopher in

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  hey all,.

  i just got home from the very first minnesota evil apostates night (mean).

  we wonder if similar apostate nights out have been held elsewhere.. we daringly held this mini-convention (8 in attendance) at a smoky bar somewhere in minneapolis.

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  See what happens when poeple leave the protection of the organization. They turn instantly into the most evil element of society. How can you actually have a good time knowing that any second armegeddon will strike and your entrails will be strewn by God, from Minneapolis to International Falls! Shame! Shame! Shame! Repent! Beg for life! You dont deserve to live! Oh workers of lawlessness.

  Now get of your butt. Get your hands on some mags and GET OUT IN THE FIELD SERVICE!!!!
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  BRITS v YANKS

  by nicolaou in

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  brits v yanks.

  this is just for laughs, but let's be honest us brits are most definately ahead of our 'cousins' across the water in the credibility stakes.. i'll kick us off and see where we go;.

  [1] the beautiful game.. it's called football.

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  Brits invented the Boyband -10
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  Self Hypnosis

  by TR in

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  just wondering if any here have tried this, and what were your results.

  or, does it offend your religious and/or spiritual senses?.

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  I often think about dropping everthing Im doing and just walking away to a remote wilderness. No one is around and I feel free. Oh yea and Im naked and I have really really big feet. I must be disturbed.
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  Truly, truly bizzare!

  by nicolaou in

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  can anyone here make any sense out of the interview found at; http://www.philstar.com/philstar/archive.asp?archive=true&category_id=17&content_id=4286.

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  That guy must be the Prince or Micheal Jackson of the Phillipines.
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  Self Hypnosis

  by TR in

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  just wondering if any here have tried this, and what were your results.

  or, does it offend your religious and/or spiritual senses?.

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  I was simply a participant in this study that was trying to determine the degree to which a population can be hypnotised. These psychology students explained that people do not forget being hypnotised or what they did while they are in it. They said that the trance like state that we see demonstrated on tv is really overplayed. Its really simply a form of intense focus through relaxation. They really did get me relaxed to the point that I was sorta slumped over in my chair. It was similar to the early stages of sleep. At this point in ones conciousness you are sometime more able to retrieve information that maybe be surpressed or forgotten while totally awake, and focusing on other things. They would try things like talking alot about two colored dots and then have you look to the front of the room where a poster was hanging with 3 colored dots. Then after the session they asked how many dots we saw(or remembered seeing). They had us really focus on a day we had in the 2nd grade and while our eyes were closed we picked up a pen and wrote our names and the date on a pc of paper. Some of the participants handwriting looked like a 2nd grader. I was most impressed with the relaxation part of it.