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  2022-07-29-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2022-07-29-announcements--english.

  2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

  3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

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  truth_b_known

  Translation: "You should be attended meetings in person...where there are conveniently located contribution boxes to the World Wide Work."

  Zoom proved that you can have meetings, even question and answer parts, without physically being present.
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  Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.

  but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?

  in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.

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  Hell, or at least the concept of it is an instrument of social control to make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer.

  That pretty much describes all theistic religion.

  Door #1 - There is an all powerful being that punishes us after our body dies by sending our non-corporal self to a place of eternal damnation. So do what you are told or feel his wrath.

  Door # 2 - Do what is both beneficial to yourself and to others because it creates peace and harmony. Failure to do so creates suffering and disharmony. The power is within you.

  I'll gladly choose door number 2 as that is door to righteousness. Door number 1 is a door of coercion and self-servitude.

  In order for a reward or a punishment to be eternal it must have no start or no end. By very definition anything eternal has no beginning or end. Nothing a person could ever do in a lifespan of 80 or 90 years would reasonably warrant being punished for all eternity. Any person who would do such a thing lacks wisdom and compassion.
  
  
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  Do you think the Watchtower is right about about eternal punishment of the wicked?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  atheists believe death is the end of personal existence.

  but for those who believe there is life after death, what do you think is the nature of final punishment?

  in other words do you agree with the atheists and the watchtower society or is there eternal ongoing conscious punishment awaiting the wicked.

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  I am an atheist. I do not believe that death is the end anymore than birth is the beginning.

  Do some serious historical research on the origins of "hell". The Jews adopted the belief of the afterlife after being conquered by the Greeks. The church did not adopt the teaching of hellfire until some 500 years after its creation.
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  TV and the Media

  by punkofnice in

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  i look at tv and the media as all fiction.. i wonder if the media is now just a tool to cauterise the brain and zombify us?

  i'm sure the uk's bbc does.

  it seems to be a tool to brainwash people to buy into latest agenda or trend that must be followed.....or you're an outcast like a disfellowshipped one.

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  I agree with your hypothesis.

  Television, radio, and web based/print news media is unbalanced and overly biased. It is creating echo chambers of confirmation bias. Gone are the days of every family tuning in for the five-o'clock news to watch the same news anchor read the news as it is. Gone are the days of reading the Sunday paper with well research articles that contain just the facts.

  This is the paradox of news media -

  You don't want government run media...

  Private media is for profit and red turns to green.
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  Try this THOUGHT EXPERIMENT ...

  by Terry in

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  thought experiment.

  the big question inside research into a.i.. (artificial intelligence) is whether the state-of-the-art program.

  lamda is .

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  Terry:

  You have brought up the Zen Koan of Joshu's Dog -

  A student once asked Master Joshu "Does a dog have buddha nature?"

  Joshu replied "Mu!"

  "Mu" is the Chinese word for "nothing" ("no-thing"). This is the Zen Buddhist idea of The Void or Emptiness. This is also known as non-duality.

  Students are to meditate on this koan asking themselves "Who am I?" All answers of identity are melted away. The only correct answer is "I do not know." Even then the question is asked, "Who is this 'I' that does not know?"
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  Family division

  by joao in

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  the worst part of my experience of getting rid of the shackles of wt is not the shunning.

  i can live with that.

  if people don't want to talk to me, there are many more who do!

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  Joao:

  Be kind. Be compassionate. Be happy.

  The Watchtower teaches that non-Jehovah's Witnesses cannot do those things. Especially being happy. That is because the Watchtower ignorant of what happiness is and how it works.

  Be a living, breathing proof that people can be good and not be a Jehovah's Witness. Concentrate on what you have going well for you in your life. Do not dwell on what you don't like.
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  Who really is the faithful and discreet slave?

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?” — math 24:45. according to jw, the faithful and discreet slave are the “anointed” men of the “governing body” of the jehovah’s witnesses religion..

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  Who is the Faithful and Discreet Slave?

  Catholics - The Pope

  Jehovah's Witnesses - The Governing Body

  All other Christians - All Christians
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  Were we?

  by punkofnice in

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  are humans naturally a monogamous species?

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  Historically, anthropologically, and biologically - not necessarily.

  Neanderthals, which Homo Sapiens interbred with, tended not to be monogamous. Most modern humans have 2% - 4% Neanderthal DNA. At one conference an attendee was able to prove they had double digit Neanderthal DNA percentages.

  https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna33002794

  The initial attraction between humans is dopamine driven. This is known as lust aka "romance". The human body can keep this up with the same partner for a period of 2 - 5 years. After that, if a real relationship based on love does not develop, the relationship tends to end. That is why many if not most divorces happen in the U.S. if not everywhere.

  It has been theorized that prior to human civilization a human male and female would get together, have a child, and when the child was old enough to walk and eat on its own the male would wander off.

  Looking at early human history we find many cultures where men had multiple wives simultaneously. This brought up several issues that brought civil unrest -

  1. In many cultures only men could own property. A man needed a male heir to leave his estate to. Women would only be taken care of by a son who inherited his father's property. The issue with having multiple wives was "which wife's son gets the farm?" Look at the Biblical story of Abraham have sons Ishmael and Isaac.
  2. Men had a tendency to fight (even to the death) for the opportunity to procreate with a woman. So, when a single man had a harem of women he became a target for violence for those who had none. Once again, look at the story of Abraham. He told men that his wife was his sister so they wouldn't kill him to try and take his wife.

  So, in early history, before government was used to control people religion was the tool that was used. Suddenly humans were hit divine rules - you get one wife. Don't have sex with someone not your spouse because that might produce a male heir outside of wedlock.

  There is a human phenomena called generational cultural indoctrination. This is were children for generations are raised being taught that something is true, but have not been given the proof as to why. It comes to a point in time where people accept a concept as true, but have no clue as to how we got there or they refer to some ancient mythology as the continued explanation (i.e. Jehovah created marriage and performed the first marriage ceremony).

  I do not think humans are naturally monogamous sexually. I do believe a lot of harm can come from not practicing it. Harm to the self and to the other.
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  JW's are the SAME as other Christians....

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...they condemn/attack those whose beliefs/opinions/interpretations of scriptures differ from theirs.. various scriptures reveal to christians that the judging of mankind will be done by christ jesus: .

  john 5:22,28,29, acts 10:42, acts 17:31, romans 14:9, 2 cor.

  5:10, 2 tim.

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  Which Christian denomination do you think is 100% correct in all its beliefs & teachings? Any of them? - Boogerman

  I don't know of any religion which is 100% doctrinally correct.

  But some religions are definitely worse than others. Any religion which denies adherents a personal and or a saving relationship with Jesus Christ, i.e., preaches another Jesus and another gospel, would be the ones to be avoided most. - Vanderhoven7

  
  
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  Do you believe that this life is all there is

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.

  what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.

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  "This life" has so much to offer another one just isn't necessary. Unfortunately people are too caught up in their fears and delusions to appreciate it.