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  is The trial of Adam and Eve an evil? resulting in more evil?

  by waton in

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  2. beliefs

  for months, week by week, wt devotees have been hammered to use just one bible text in 'the ministry',.

  james 1:3 " - god does not try anyone with evil - ".

  to show on what shaky footing wt doctrine defenders are, ask the presenters these questions:.

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  Oh, boy!

  The philosophical debate you set up is similar to The Problem of Evil originated by Greek philosopher Epicurus -

  If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.

  • If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
  • If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.
  • If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
  • Evil exists.
  • If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists, or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil.
  • Therefore, God doesn’t exist.

  My issue with the line of thinking is that "good" and "evil" are concepts created by theology and western culture. This is as opposed to that which is beneficial and that which is harmful in eastern culture. Good and evil are binary concepts which are often trademarks of Abrahamic faith's influence.

  Also the idea of suffering. There is pain which is a beneficial function of the central nervous system. Then there is suffering which is a mental anguish generated by a combination of concepts, beliefs, and how one orients themselves to an event. In short - we create our own suffering.

  So, yes, the Genesis account makes absolutely no sense. There are many responses by Christian Apologists to this. However, those responses do not stand up to logic and reason.

  Here is an interesting video on the topic. The end of it has a line of questions to ask Apologists that shows the fallacy in their response.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0_pTSAzYZA
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  Unpopular opinion

  by Judgerussellford in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i've asked this question to witnesses in the past (super no no question to ask by the way but hilarious responses) to bosses and coworkers, and random people of different faiths and i'm curious to know how mixed of a response this community will give.

  bible believers or not your oppinion is very welcome.

  technically according to scripture we are gods sons.

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  God takes his place in the divine assembly;*b
  In the middle of the gods* he judges:c
  2 “How long will you continue to judge with injusticed
  And show partiality to the wicked?e (Selah)
  3 Defend* the lowly and the fatherless.f
  Render justice to the helpless and destitute.g
  4 Rescue the lowly and the poor;
  Save them out of the hand of the wicked.”
  5 They do not know, nor do they understand;h
  They are walking about in darkness;
  All the foundations of the earth are being shaken.i
  6 “I have said, ‘You are gods,*j
  All of you are sons of the Most High. - Psalm 82:1-6 NWT
  31 Once again the Jews picked up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are you stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy;+ for you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’?*+ 35 If he called ‘gods’+ those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? - John 10:31-36 NWT

  The above is your scriptural proof that all beings are not just sons of God, but gods themselves.

  What is forgiveness - a conscious, deliberate decision to release feelings of resentment or vengeance toward a person or group who has harmed you, regardless of whether they actually deserve your forgiveness.

  Forgiveness is not for the wrongdoer. It if for the one who was wronged. Resentment is a prison that traps us from happiness. You must be free to be happy. If you are resentful you are not free.

  Even a god cannot do be happy while being resentful. This holds true in both physical and spiritual realms. Being angry is being in hell.
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  Interview with an apostate: Judgerussellford

  by Judgerussellford in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  great grandma studies out of the children book.

  are your parents / family jws?.

  my grandma, her son and some cousins and aunts/uncles on that side yes.

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  Welcome Judge Russellford! We are glad to have you. Please enjoy your stay.

  I highly encourage you to keep on researching. There are 3 things that cannot be hidden - the Sun, the moon, and the truth.

  Run with those seeking truth and away from those who claim to have found it.
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  The attorneys gave us bad advice.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the attorneys gave them bad advice, and when contacted the wt says we don't comment on specific cases.

  what a cop out!.

  https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20220521/jehovahs-witness-elders-who-failed-to-report-child-abuse-got-bad-advice-say-local-pastors-attorneys.

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  Asking a civil attorney for legal advice on a criminal matter is like asking a plumber how to fix your electrical problem. Being an attorney is like being a doctor - there is no one stop shop.
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  What could it be?

  by RolRod in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in a previous thread i mentioned how the society took down the pyramid monument at rosemont cemetary in pittsburgh.

  well now there's something being built on the same site.

  i'm thinking a high watchtower monument.

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  There replacing the pyramid with one of these...

  
  
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  Homeopathy and Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by jojorabbit in

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  2. beliefs

  years ago, the jws did not like modern medicine.

  vaccines and other things were all deemed bad.

  this gave rise to a lot of jws getting into alternative medicines.

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  This was huge when I was growing up as a JW. My father thought health insurance was a waste of money. Snake oil and a chiropractor were all you need according to my parents.
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  Jesus is Michael the Archangel

  by Fisherman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  only jesus has the power and authority to defeat satan and kick him out of heaven:.

  “now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our god and the authority of his christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our god.”.

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  The Persians created Satan in their Zoroastrian religion. The Jews adopted Satan into their religion. Perhaps we should look into Zoroastrian religion for the answer to the other identity of Michael the Archangel is?
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  Prediction of how Watchtower going to be in 5 Years.

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.

  kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.

  the craziness will continue.

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  Watchtowers future Is focusing on the children. People are not coming in from territorium so they gonna do what they can too grab the jw children early.

  This is it right here!

  Look at this as we would the population of a nation. In order to lower a nation's population the government usually prohibits having more than 1 child per couple (e.g. China). To maintain a population level the government encourages having 2 children per couple (there was a Scandinavian country that did this). This system works.

  In order for Jehovah's Witnesses to grow I would imagine a couple would have to have 4 children. Here's why 4 -

  My personal experience is seeing in my generation that 33.3% of JW children remain JW when they become adults. That is in JW families that have at least 3 children. That is to say, 1 out of 3 children in a JW family tends to remain a JW.

  That is why the Watchtower will put more effort into multimedia for children. I would never have imagined growing up as a child that the Watchtower would be producing animated children's programming or connect the dots activities in their printed material. The religion isn't being "dumbed down". It is lowering its level to that of a young child.
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  What sort of people were the JW's who went to prison? Government study tells all

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you feel a draft?

  (jw’s did-in the 1960s)i thought you might find it interesting to review exactly what the u.s. government thought, studied, and wrote about people of conscience during the vietnam war.what follows comes from official records…more than half of the 27 million men eligible for the draft during the vietnam war were deferred, exempted, or disqualified.

  (cortright, david (2008).

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  This is the situation that first opened my eyes. I could not believe that the Watchtower gave orders to young Witness men to reject alternative service and then deny that was would they were told to do by the Watchtower. What is interesting is I believe the Watchtower policy is still to announce that a baptized Witness who voluntarily joins the military is to be labeled "Disassociated" and not "Disfellowshipped" for fear of the U.S. government.
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  Something Eerily Familiar about "The Village" Movie.

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  even after 17 years i still haven't forgot "the village".

  maybe it was because i had just left the wt.

  did anyone else feel like you especially identified with this movie as a witness/ex-witness?

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  I remember seeing this film in the theater. I was definitely PIMI at the time. So, it is only after the fact that I see the familiarity.

  Those who engineered the Village went out of their way to make sure their children were not accidently exposed to sightings of modern things such as planes (no fly zone), etc. That sounds familiar (avoid the internet!).