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  The National Anthem

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
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  recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

  as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

  in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

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  This is such a convoluted subject for Witnesses in the U.S. Public schools K-12 start the day by standing and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Most professional sports leagues start their games with the national anthem.

  As a Witness we were taught - for the Pledge of Allegiance it is alright to stand out of respect, but for the national anthem one must remain seated. The simple act of standing for the national anthem is an act of worship.

  This made no sense to me. Like others, when I attended sporting events I would just head to the concession stands during the national anthem. As a kid I went with my friends and their father to a professional soccer (football) match. We sat during the national anthem. My friends' father was reading the newspaper while it played. We were heckled the whole time.
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  The National Anthem

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recent controversies in america brought this to mind , although i don’t want this to become a political thread , rather to discuss the wts rules that stop a jw showing respect for the national anthem.. the watchtower says that doing so is an act of idolatry, giving worship to the state or its icon.

  as such witnesses remain seated when the anthem is played.

  in britain people simply stand quietly to show respect, there is no hand gesture.. when i was a boy, every cinema show and theatre concluded with the anthem,being played .usually it was orchestrally with no words sung.

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  truth_b_known

  This is such a convoluted subject for Witnesses in the U.S. Public schools K-12 start the day by standing and reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Most professional sports leagues start their games with the national anthem.

  As a Witness we were taught - for the Pledge of Allegiance it is alright to stand out of respect, but for the national anthem one must remain seated. The simple act of standing for the national anthem is an act of worship.

  This made no sense to me. Like others, when I attended sporting events I would just head to the concession stands during the national anthem. As a kid I went with my friends and their father to a professional soccer (football) match. We sat during the national anthem. My friends' father was reading the newspaper while it played. We were heckled the whole time.
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

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  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  BLM wants to put an end to the police -

  https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/

  City of Los Angeles Mayor agrees and does -

  https://deadline.com/2020/06/los-angeles-mayor-eric-garcetti-city-officials-cutting-100-150-million-from-lapd-budget-funds-to-be-reinvested-in-communities-of-color-1202950811/
  
  
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  Black Lives Matter—Do You Agree With Their Philosophy?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i agree with people who say all lives matter.

  i think blm is a racist group.

  if white people pushed an agenda saying white lives matter, some people would have a conniption..

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  truth_b_known

  Identity politics is exhausting. I'm ready to start talking about and implementing solutions. I'm done with hearing about problems, only.
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  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

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  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

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  RubaDub -

  Do you make french fries in your John Cedars air fryer? Do you taste those french fries, smile, and say,"Tastes like apostasy"?
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  Is it me or is John Cedars channel becoming a self important circle fest

  by phoenixrising in

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  i still like the commentary on the jw.org monthly’s, i can skip through some parts.

  but it seems like he is pushing too hard to put out videos and the quality is getting very low on the content..

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  The moment Lloyd Evans monetized his activism was the moment he lost credibility. John Cedars - The Channel. John Cedars - The T-Shirt. Next thing you know we will have a John Cedars theme park.
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  Lingering doubts and internal debates

  by Huxley1979 in

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  hello, i am in the beginning stages of a slow fade.

  over the years i have become more and more dissatisfied with the beliefs, teachings, and organizational practices of the organization.

  i no longer have faith in it.

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  Study the historic of the ancient nation of Israel. There are plenty of academic works that reveal exactly how a Canaanite tribe reinvented itself into Israel while in Persian captivity. You will learn about how they originally worshiped the Baal pantheon, El and his wife Asherah.

  Why did the Israelites make a golden calf while Moses was receiving the 10 Commandments? Because El is often represented as a bull.
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  Tips for a Slow Fade

  by Huxley1979 in

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  i'm a born and raised witness.

  i was an elder for almost 20 years.

  almost the same in fulltime service.

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  It also depends on how well you can stand being dishonest. For me, at one point before my fade, I started realizing I was not going out in service. I remember falsifying my hours on my monthly report. If you are meeting the national average the elders should be satisfied because you are not dragging the congregation average down.

  Next, I highly recommend making friends and strong ties with non-Witnesses. For me it was co-workers. I ended up getting a job at a place some of my non-Witness college classmates worked at.

  Finally, at some point switch congregations. Probably somewhere far from where you live. Attend a few meetings at a congregation that is probably going to end up being merged and lose their Kingdom Hall to a Watchtower sale. Once your publisher records are sent over, vanish. Don't tell anyone in the new congregation where you live or what your telephone number is. Once you switch congregations you are no longer a liability to your current body of elders.

  You have to be honest with yourself. At some point you have to decide - am I in or am I out. You will lose every Witness friend you have. Be sure to have built a social safety net with new friends before then.
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  How Would You React if a Snake Started Talking to You?

  by RubaDub in

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  just an odd thought i guess.

  i saw a large snake in the back of my house the other day and it went on its merry way.

  i just asked myself, what if the snake turned around and wanted to have a philosophical discussion on life, the universe or the origin of creation and then began to ask me questions?

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  The "snake" in the Garden of Eden story may have been Adam's first wife, Lilith. There are several older paintings of the snake having a woman's head.
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  Spiritual Paradise Watchtower Style

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  can you believe the presumption?.

  https://youtu.be/1mamt-krcnc.

  https://youtu.be/wjnk-mr_860.

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  truth_b_known

  Hairtrigger:

  Yes. There are writings by the such ones. Check out The Apostolic Fathers in English 3rd Edition by Michael Holmes.

  Please keep in mind that Martin Luther's Reformation Movement is why some many outside the Catholic Church have no idea where much of Christian doctrine comes from. Luther touted Sola Scriptura (Scripture Only) or "if it is not in the Bible it is not true." Then Luther started removing books from the Bible because they opposed his beliefs (i.e. saved by grace alone which gave us "once saved, always saved"). Luther tried to have the Book of James removed from the Bible because one verse counters the saved by grace alone belief.