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  JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i asked the question on quora: .

  if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

  https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

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  truth_b_known

  Isn't ironic?

  The question posed to believers asking if they would remain faithful to their religion if their religious leaders changed a core belief with the following general response -

  "I love being part of a religion that admits when it's wrong and changes it's beliefs, which it has done many times."

  How can anyone refer to their religion as "The Truth" when literally every belief may be wrong and could change at anytime?

  Perhaps Witnesses should replace the term "The Truth" to "Blind Obedience."
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  Just a thought

  by moley in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a hypothetical question.

  if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.

  i would.

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  truth_b_known

  8 years ago, when I first came to this site, there was a post that contained a well written story of what a former Witness thought life would be like in the "New System". First, I think the conjecture was horrifyingly accurate. Second, that conjecture was so depressing that I can honestly say life as a Witness in the New System would be a life of suffering that goes far beyond life currently.
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  Taking children out on the ministry

  by Freedom rocks in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can i ask your views on taking children out on the ministry?

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  do you have any experiences you can share of things you as a child/your children/grandchildren have witnessed on the ministry that they shouldn't have?.

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  truth_b_known

  It was brutal to be dragged out in field service as a child. It's cruel to the child and sometime places the child in danger.
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  Ideas on covering id online?

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  guys, ive wanted for long to start to express my thoughts about what i learned about the org and the bible altogether but i'm a pimo.

  what suggestions do you have for me?

  i don't want to "get caught" for sharing "apostasy" and i think running a page on facebook or instagram is too easy for anyone to track me down.

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  It wouldn't be hard to do if you're careful.

  Open up a web based e-mail account just for opening your social media accounts.

  Use an assumed name for your accounts.

  Make sure you turn off all geo-tagging options on social media accounts.

  Prior to posting anything ask yourself "Is there anything in the content of this post that would lead someone I know to believe that I posted this?"

  Things like IP addresses are not available to the general public and are only available to law enforcement when the obtain a search warrant.
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  Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.

  montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .

  a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .

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  truth_b_known

  Romans 13:1-7 states that Jehovah gives us the earthly authorities as a minister to us and that Jehovah gives those authorities a sword to use. When the authorities use that sword it is Jehovah's will.

  The courts are part of the earthly authorities.

  A Witness can claim the "media" is controlled by Satan, but Satan does not control the courts according to Romans 13:1-7. To dispute this is to say the Bible contradicts itself.
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  EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

  the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

  the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

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  A hand written note by a "publisher of the good news" is an official document. The "publisher" is the official custodian of record of said document. Individual "publishers" would legally be considered agents of their local congregations and therefor agents of their international organization.

  I can't tell you how many times I went out in the ministry an we ended up working the "not-at-homes" for the morning/afternoon/evening. The territory card holder would hand each pair of publishers a sheet of not-at-homes to work. Therefor the information is being shared, even if internally.

  Looking back at this it gives me the creeps. I had 2 state prisons who's inmate population was considered part of the congregation's territory. There were about 50 inmates that were considered publishers and part of our congregation. When they would parole they were often welcomed with open arms right into our meetings. Those "not-at-home" records would make perfect "Burglarize these Homes" lists.
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  What are they trying to hide

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?

  i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.

  any thoughts?

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  I think the simplest answer is the correct answer. Growing up in the organization in the 1980s I recall countless articles published by the WBTS lambasting the Catholic Church for its pedophile problems. Move forward a few decades and now Jehovah's Witnesses are being lumped into the group of religious pedophile protectors/deniers.

  Jehovah's Witnesses have been preaching and publishing they are the one true religion from day one. Since the days of Rutherford they have adopted dogma and policy to unnecessarily draw lines in the sand so they can be different than everyone else.

  With the public notoriety of JWs being pedophile protectors/deniers they have made themselves worse than the Catholic Church. At least the Catholic Church no longer denies they have a problem. This increases the size of the embarrassing stain on the proverbial shirt of JWs.

  The non-answer given by the WBTS of "We hate pedophiles" isn't a confession. They refuse to admit the problem and continue to use their membership donations as hush money to the victims. The organization isn't hiding anything. They have been exposed. Its like playing hide-and-go seek and a person who has been found replies "No you haven't."
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  You're in the Army Now: Jehovah's Witnesses No Longer Exempt From Finnish Draft

  by Tahoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://sputniknews.com/europe/201809211068220658-finland-jehovah-witnesses-army/.

  the finnish government has ruled that the current law allowing jehovah's witnesses to avoid military service, in place for several decades, is discriminatory and contradicts the constitution.. .

  in the future, finnish jehovah's witnesses* will be obliged to either serve in the nation's military or perform civil service on the same terms as everyone else, the government ruled, submitting a corresponding proposal to parliament, national broadcaster yle reported.. according to the 1987 law, jehovah's witnesses were not only freed from the military draft, they were freed of any obligation to perform community service as a pacifist alternative, a common option among other young people in finland.

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  I want to say it was 1993 when the WBTS reversed its stand on alternative compelled service. Many given this alternative to military service went to prison as they refused to do both.
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  The Law : Frédéric Bastiat

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1glr0lrt-m.

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  truth_b_known

  Let's review:

  Charity > Tax payer funded entitlements

  Taxation = Redistribution of wealth
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  The "Faithful And Discreet Slave Class" is it still a Doctrine / Belief ? of Jehovah`s Witnesses today ? 2018 ? or is it old light.

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have listened to steven unthank`s podcast and found it very informative and interesting and thought i would ask this question for anyone who is still a practicing member either a pimo or a pomo who only goes along for a family member ,whether this doctrine is still a part of the religions teachings ,or whether it has been dropped altogether .. your replies are much appreciated ..

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  I'm with Room 215 - I would have thought there would have been whispering from the bleachers on this one. My father has proclaimed to be of the annointed since he converted back in the 1960s. Since I've been inactive since 2006 and completed out since 2010, he and I do not speak much. I have wondered what his take on this is. He filled me in back in 2005 that those who proclaimed to be of the annointed were often targeted by the organization for expulsion.