Posts by Badfish

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Was Jesus a Jew OR actually a Hebrew

by *lost* in

any thoughts ?.

Badfish

And yet virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed, and although there is little agreement on the historicity of gospel narratives and their theological assertions of his divinity, biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of his non-existence as effectively refuted.

In a 2011 review of the state of modern scholarship, Bart Ehrman (now a secular agnostic who was formerly Evangelical) wrote: "He certainly existed, as virtually every competent scholar of antiquity, Christian or non-Christian, agrees" B. Ehrman, 2011 Forged : writing in the name of God ISBN 978-0-06-207863-6 . page 285

Robert M. Price (a Christian atheist who denies the existence of Jesus) agrees that this perspective runs against the views of the majority of scholars: Robert M. Price "Jesus at the Vanishing Point" in The Historical Jesus: Five Views edited by James K. Beilby & Paul Rhodes Eddy, 2009 InterVarsity, ISBN 028106329X page 61

Michael Grant (a classicist ) states that "In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus' or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary." in Jesus: An Historian's Review of the Gospels by Micjhael Grant 2004 ISBN 1898799881 page 200

Richard A. Burridge states: "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church’s imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more." in Jesus Now and Then by Richard A. Burridge and Graham Gould (Apr 1, 2004) ISBN 0802809774 page 34

Robert E. Van Voorst Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence Eerdmans Publishing, 2000. ISBN 0-8028-4368-9 page 16 states: "biblical scholars and classical historians regard theories of non-existence of Jesus as effectively refuted"

James D. G. Dunn "Paul's understanding of the death of Jesus" in Sacrifice and Redemption edited by S. W. Sykes (Dec 3, 2007) Cambridge University Press ISBN 052104460X pages 35-36 states that the theories of non-existence of Jesus are "a thoroughly dead thesis"

The Gospels and Jesus by Graham Stanton , 1989 ISBN 0192132415 Oxford University Press, page 145 states : "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed".

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Was Jesus a Jew OR actually a Hebrew

by *lost* in

any thoughts ?.

Badfish

How about a myth?

Please explain how the most famous man in the history of the world did not exist.

EDIT: Oh, you edited it.

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I think I've planted a seed!

by OneDayillBeFree in

i could be wrong, but i can't help but be a bit optimistic.last night my parents and i had our "family worship night".

i hate it, and i believe my mother does too.

my dad only does it because he's an elder but last night even he was acting like he didnt want to do it.

Badfish

What a great topic for "FWN!" The history of "Jehovah's Organization."

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Was Jesus a Jew OR actually a Hebrew

by *lost* in

any thoughts ?.

Badfish

From Wikipedia:

" The term Jew originates in the Biblical Hebrew word Yehudi meaning "from the Tribe of Judah ", "from the Kingdom of Judah , or " Jew ". This was translated into the Greek Ioudaios and Latin Iudaeus , from which the Old French giu was derived after dropping the letter "d", and later became the English word Jew."

So according to this, he was both a Jew and a Hebrew.

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Nervous confronting a women I like

by d in

i am trying to talk to a women at school i like.

i have emailed her but she did not respond back what i should i do?

i still get nervous around women..

Badfish

Asked my girlfriend about the one, two or three girls to approach from a female's perspective. She says the odds would be better to approach a woman who's alone. Women in groups are more likely to be afraid of looking like a slut in front of her friends if she asks interested in a guy that approaches her.

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How much do you pay for your internet service?

by JH in

jw
friends

a few years ago, i had dial up internet with netrover, and cost about 18$ a month, unlimited use.

but it was slow.. then i had videotron here in quebec, low speed internet (cable) for about 29$ a month which was about 3 to 4 times faster than dial up.

now i upgraded it to high speed for about 45$ a month plus tax of course.

Badfish

Not sure how much just the Internet is in mine. I have a bundle that includes the phone, Internet and TV for around $150 a month. The Internet speed is 50 Mbps down / 10 Mbps up, which I'm satisfied with for now.

Wish they had Google Fiber here though. It's 1 gigabit down / 1 gigbit up with a dedicated line to your house. Super fast!

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Sad Discussion Regarding Beards

by turtleturtle in

so both my wife and i are awake to ttatt.

we are still active, patiently waiting for the org to implode.

being active, it is evident this is happening as a quickening.. we were having a discussion regarding shaving & beards.

Badfish

They wouldn't say anything about your beard until you got serious in a bible study with someone and wanted to become a publisher or get baptized.

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TOP 10 REASONS that for JW's REALITY = access denied!

by Terry in

jw
friends

1.the organization itself denies access to reality and substitutes its own alternate reality of counterfeit "meaning".. a.only watchtower approved publications are worthwhile reading material.. b.no higher education is to be pursued.. c.no non-jw friends or associations are encouraged with their "outside" points of view.. d.no free-style questioning of doctrine or criticism permitted.

curiousity is verboten.. e.threat of being "marked" or disassociated looms as an invisible gun aimed at members at every moment!.

2.between every real-world event and the rank and file jw's mind is a roadblock.. a.the moment of identifying is short-circuited by an interpretive moment of re-labeling in watchtower-speak.. b.all things happening are forced into a narrow storyline and propagandized as end times happenings leading to armageddon.. 3.social and personal identity is expunged and replaced by a collective persona of "jehovah's witness".. a.private thinking is red-flagged as self-centered and sinful.. b.personal improvement, welfare and ambition is labeled repugnant.

Badfish

Ayn Rand - Anthem

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Sad Discussion Regarding Beards

by turtleturtle in

so both my wife and i are awake to ttatt.

we are still active, patiently waiting for the org to implode.

being active, it is evident this is happening as a quickening.. we were having a discussion regarding shaving & beards.

Badfish

I was never baptized but was a publisher. They made the announcement at the KH that I was "no longer a publisher" at the age of 17 in the late 90's because of my hair and beard. But since there are no scriptures about hair and beards, I called the elders and asked them why I was removed. They said it was for "loose conduct." Whatever that means.

When the elders met with me about my long hair, they said that long hair is associated with being homosexual and feminine and beards were a fad with the world.

i responded (this was the late 90's) that actually, the current style for my age group was not to have a beard, and most of the gays had short hair - I wouldn't be mistaken for a girl with my beard.

No comment from them. I'm pretty sure I knew more about the current styles at 17 than the two 60+ elders that met with me.

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Sad Discussion Regarding Beards

by turtleturtle in

so both my wife and i are awake to ttatt.

we are still active, patiently waiting for the org to implode.

being active, it is evident this is happening as a quickening.. we were having a discussion regarding shaving & beards.

Badfish

I remember in the 90's when I was in a car group and a younger brother said he can't wait until he no longer has to shave in the New System. An elder who was sitting in the car got upset and corrected him and said we would always have to shave and reminded him that there are no beards in any of the pictures of the New System in the publications, meaning we we always have to shave.

I asked the elder if Abraham will be resurrected clean shaven or with a beard. He said if he's resurrected with a beard, he'll have to shave it.