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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  “…Jehovah’s Witnesses’ policy was that parents should not leave their children with elders…”

  This makes me SO, SO, ANGRY! These are weasel words.

  As a recent former elder - there is absolutely NOTHING in 'policy', no, no let me be clear, there is nothing ANYWHERE that says this.

  This is absolutely disgusting behavior. This violates the basic christian commandments, let along anything else.

  I hope that they (NZ) are getting good advice and examples to showcase these as lies, and I hope that the WT gets everything that it deserves, right back at it.
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  How things are in JW land right now?

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?

  are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.

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  We're about 60/40 weekends and 40/60 midweek.

  However it's the TOTAL attendance that's down massively. We're down all up 20-30% consistently on during COVID meeting attendances. That's a more telling number...

  Edit: Also field service (D2D) very poorly supported. People are scared to go out and will do anything to drag out discussions at groups, do a few doors then having something else to do, minor inclement weather and oops we'll do letter writing (not even phone calls).
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  Book of life in pencil

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where is the scripture about using pencil?.

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  sheol-do

  Well not really, it's simply an illustration of how to view it in modern terms...

  Name goes in, could be erased.

  At some point it will not be able to be erased.

  No huge conspiracy here about the illustration anyway...
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  Is there any update on this case at all? When is the accused back in court?

  Really keen to see what happens as this progresses.
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  Illinois Elders as mandatory reporters must undergo training

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  illinois now requires all elders as mandatory reporters to undergo state approved training every three years to ensure they fully understand their roles as mandated reporters.

  this will include a pre training assessment, 60 - 90 mins of self paced, interactive training with a final assessment to ensure reporters understand their responsibilities.

  following the course, mandated reporters must make a declaration that they understand their status as a reporter and will fully comply with mandatory requirements.

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  sheol-do

  Wouldn’t that be “all” JWs since the WTBTS considers them all to be ordained ministers.

  Only ordained ministers in time of war.

  Apart from that you are nothing to do with us and on your own...
  
  
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  Is the Governing Body still considering giving an apology?

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  cricket australia apologised to child sex abuse survivors on monday.. https://supersport.com/cricket/news/d697602e-7832-45d7-9710-024493595f57/cricket_australia_sorry_for_historical_child_sex_abuse.

  is it still foreseeable the governing body will consider giving an apology to anyone who has suffered sexual abuse in australia?

  7 years ago.

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  I can't see this ever happening unless in exchange for a huge drop in some financial penalty.

  How much reproach they would heap on Jehovah's name if they admitted to the world this was handled badly.
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  Sorry jonahstourguide I misread what you wrote. I thought it crazy people wouldn't know. Of course they do and no doubt a lot of gossip behind the scenes... ;)

  Will be interested end of next month.
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  Not currently an Elder - he was 3 weeks ago... ;)

  The report says he was a senior figure (higher up is what is meant by that term) if that isn't current, then it certainly must have been in the past.

  The news that local witnesses don't know who the accused is, is suspicious. There is quite a lot of info out there that he has an accounting practice, has multiple offices locally and in Brisbane. And also is a multi national. And the accused activity last occured only 4 years ago.

  Shouldn't be too hard for even the dullest JW to make judgement on those details...???
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  Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.

  is not that construed as protecting the accused?.

  if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.

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  Report Abuse > Victim Disfellowshipped > Abuser Elder Continues on His Merry Way...

  Glad for the victim she has some compensation, however disappointed that the case doesn't continue so ALL the facts are laid out bare.

  Publishers are told that they settle often so they don't have to face the "injustice" of the courts.

  Come on make them accountable, make all the evidence plainly clear.
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  Senior JW member in Australia charged with sex crimes and torture

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  see: https://7news.com.au/news/crime/senior-jehovahs-witnesses-member-charged-with-rape-torture-and-assault-of-teenage-boys-c-8044666.

  "senior jehovah’s witnesses member charged with rape, torture and assault of teenage boys...".

  the 61 year-old man "faces 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procuring sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.".

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  sheol-do

  Replying late here, but I know there's much more to go in this saga to come out.

  Wow, this is a disgusting abuse of power, abhorrent behaviour by this elder.

  And to see he's still receiving support from his congregation...

  If the police have enough to have pressed charges they have a case. This is not talk from "strangers" or someone with an axe to grind.

  This is truly sick.