They are still there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ooZvsDdHk&feature=youtu.be
not sure if this has already been submitted, but we need exjws to mobilize on this.. from: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/5kzyfn/lets_get_jws_propaganda_out_of_disneyland/.
posted by: sweetpotatopeachtree .
i submitted the following on the disneyland facebook page (link below) on december 19th after seeing jws peddling their cult propaganda at downtown disney in anaheim, ca.
They are still there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ooZvsDdHk&feature=youtu.be
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
Thanks Pale Emperor! Yeah, the current JWs are too busy with current cult crap to look at old stuff that just irritates the dissonance. I'll check out the links to see if I can share my findings with family.
Thanks Diogenesister. I've looked a little bit at exjwreddit, like it a lot. I love avoidjw.com's resources, but I guess I was also wondering if there was a legit site I could refer to as a source to a current jw.
When I said they don't have everything I was thinking about Mike and Kim's big binder of letters and crazy extra stuff that has gotten 'lost' for lack of a better word. Wish I could think of an example.. apologies. I don't take notes and file them while watching M & K, as I live with 'in' Jdubs. But, I wouldn't anyway.
It is absolutely b@$ $h(! crazy that referring to their own literature on an ex-jw website would raise red flags, but I know I know, it's a cult! Then that an elder can brag about access to all the literature without sharing.
That elder must be on apostate websites... I have wondered if he is a narcissist. He's sort of charming, but boy he can turn on people. I can't imagine knowing and still working for WT whole heartedly, but it appears some do just that. Unless they are very good at faking it. IDK.
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
Thanks Magnum. That's what I've been thinking lately, and I love that avoidjw.com has so much. I can't say it has it all, because that is probably just impossible.
this is my first time making an o.p.
an elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books.
also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers.
Hello all. This is my first time making an o.p. So, here goes. An elder told me that he had access to a website online that had all the old bound volumes and books. Also, he made sure to say it was not an apostate website, but a 'legit' website made by brothers. I really wanted to know what website he was talking about, but this guy is a master manipulator and I never got it out of him. (Change subject, deflect, etc.) I can't find anything like this except for avoidjw. Ha ha, he was probably being a naughty boy going to an apostate site, right?
Just the fact that he had to say it was not apostate, hmmm. It was so weird I remember it even though I was totally asleep at the time.
ps I'm not comfortable with an introductory o.p. yet, apologies.
you could fertilize your garden with this shite.... https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/respond-to-accusations/.
JW organization knows human nature well: Ignoring questions works - and equally, it sends a message: "Don't even bother to ask".
I grew up hearing "You shouldn't even have to ask".
Cult parents following the cult in every way.
i just recently stopped attending.
i keep getting messages, emails, texts and voice mails asking if i'm ok. they all say the exact same thing.
it's creepy and a bit scary.
Welcome. Your situation reminds me of so many stories, and you can find many of us telling our stalking stories on youtube (jwstruggle, kimmikey, etc, etc,). Therapy may help, and showing the therapist the texts. He or she should be able to give you good ideas on how to cope, and where you can get legal help if possible. Some of the best therapy is to keep hanging out with us! A warning about professional therapists though, they are notoriously undereducated or uneducated on cults and the cult of Jehovah's Witnesses.
If you are trying to fade, try not to get too frazzled, and say something that they will use to DF you. Stay calm and ignore the crazy crap!
Hope this helps.
i recently came across a female youtuber called "bridget azaz".
she has made a number of youtubes recording discussions that she has had with a number of jws.
she does an excellant job and i thought i would make mention of her here.there appears to be another youtube site that either she or someone else has created with a couple of her interviews which have been touched up from the originals on her 'bridget azaz' site.this is one of them and i think you will enjoy it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkescwpafmu&feature=em-subs_digest.
Thanks Londo!
i recently came across a female youtuber called "bridget azaz".
she has made a number of youtubes recording discussions that she has had with a number of jws.
she does an excellant job and i thought i would make mention of her here.there appears to be another youtube site that either she or someone else has created with a couple of her interviews which have been touched up from the originals on her 'bridget azaz' site.this is one of them and i think you will enjoy it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkescwpafmu&feature=em-subs_digest.
She now has a bunch of videos of a recording with elders, a c.o. and a poor lady who stands her ground on 'ttatt'. They range from six to fifteen minutes long. Here's a link to one of them:
CO/Elder - pt.2 More Defense of Shunning
Bridget rocks; I love her channel.
credit goes to mike & kim.. .. https://youtu.be/yj3x6wjrsaq .
.. .. atlantis!.
I'm fifth generation born in. :( Anyway, here's a convention reminder video story on how I woke up:
One evening while listening to the meeting at home as I normally did due to severe allergies I googled convention reminders because I wanted to see the video everyone else was watching! There was no JW approved way to watch it at that time except to go meeting. Anyway, it popped up from google and I watched it. I think a link was provided from this site, but I remember being taken to another video watching site that I didn't recognize, and the video was private. I could only get to it and watch it through the link from jehovahs-witnesses.com. I was disturbed by the comments I saw, and quickly realized it was.... apostates! Well, I was just glad to have watched it... But, a seed was planted, thank the Universe, Gaia, God, Science, or whoever! I don't remember how or why, a couple months later, I stumbled on Eric Struggles disfellowshipping video during meeting and I couldn't help watching all of them that night. It took from the end of meeting till about 2:00 a.m. I drank a bottle of wine and disagreed with Eric the whole time (cognitive dissonance, eh?). However, again a seed was planted, and I started thinking (independently, oh no! ;). In large part because he was good at talking to those elders and so sincere, a quality almost completely missing in JWdom. Then I started searching, found JWfacts, which was scary at first, but became totally addicting! A few months later I decided to re-watch Eric's videos and agreed with about 85% by that time! Now I'm totally awake and trying to help friends and family wake up and trying not to throw up when I have pretend in field circus or when I "try" to go to a meeting (testing the allergies).
Keep those leaks coming!
on our local needs part tonight, the elder (on the local ldc), conducting the part, said he just got back from a meeting in memphis tn with members from the us branch rdc conducting the meeting.
they mentioned that only 6 new kingdom halls and 2 major re-models were completed in 2016.
"it may seem like a small accomplishment, considering under the old rbc arrangement there was some 700 projects on the average each year being done", "but, this is going 5-10 years of training to kick this new program into optima production".
Thank you for sharing what you know, James Jack.