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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  nicolaou

  Oh what the hell, put me down for a 6.07% drop. So -31 down to 476.

  See what I did there Lloyd?
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  At what point, does one become apostate to the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at what point does a jehovah’s witness cease to be a jehovah’s witness?

  what if a witness doesn't believe some of the official teachings of the governing body but remains silent on these subjects to avoid being disfellowshipped?

  is he or she an apostate to the faith?

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  blondie: The WTS notes that the minor children of the people who died at the flood died forever.

  Hi blondie. I don't doubt you are being accurate but do you have any references for this? Thanks.
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  Watching the show

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m new to apostate stuff but have gone deep down a few rabbit holes of late so want to see both sides to everything .

  im going to a congregation but am viewed as a bit of a black sheep because i question lots of things but not enough to cause too much trouble.. i’m intrigued watching the show.

  in my heart i’m pretty sure the governing body are fakes and charlatans.. the entire thing is a big con game.

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  The God I know would never do that .

  The Flood? The Passover? The commands to Joshua to annihilate everyone enroute to the Promised Land?
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  Watching the show

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m new to apostate stuff but have gone deep down a few rabbit holes of late so want to see both sides to everything .

  im going to a congregation but am viewed as a bit of a black sheep because i question lots of things but not enough to cause too much trouble.. i’m intrigued watching the show.

  in my heart i’m pretty sure the governing body are fakes and charlatans.. the entire thing is a big con game.

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  nicolaou

  Do what you have to do but don't fall for the lie that there's anything wrong with being apostate. Apostasy is nothing more than changing your mind. Explaining your reasons for that is just being human.

  People with indefensible positions will demonise former members who undermine their ideology with reason and evidence because they have no rational arguments to protect them.

  Name calling is infantile.
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  Watching the show

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m new to apostate stuff but have gone deep down a few rabbit holes of late so want to see both sides to everything .

  im going to a congregation but am viewed as a bit of a black sheep because i question lots of things but not enough to cause too much trouble.. i’m intrigued watching the show.

  in my heart i’m pretty sure the governing body are fakes and charlatans.. the entire thing is a big con game.

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  nicolaou

  Sea Breeze: How do you know that?

  How do you not know that? What has blinded you to such plain and obvious truths? Your special pleading, obfuscation and wilful ignorance are more than tiresome and I'm breaking my own promise not to waste time on you Sea Breeze. I won't do it again.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/users/4799/nicolaou/posts#5784530749751296
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  Watching the show

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m new to apostate stuff but have gone deep down a few rabbit holes of late so want to see both sides to everything .

  im going to a congregation but am viewed as a bit of a black sheep because i question lots of things but not enough to cause too much trouble.. i’m intrigued watching the show.

  in my heart i’m pretty sure the governing body are fakes and charlatans.. the entire thing is a big con game.

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  nicolaou

  Welcome to the forum Teddnzo and good on you for having an inquisitive and even-handed approach.

  I'd argue that "the top several points that prove JWs wrong" are the very same points that prove ALL of Christianity wrong. Maybe that's not what you want to hear but it's true anyway.

  Virgins don't have babies, men can't walk on water and corpses don't come back to life.

  Look forward to hearing more from you.
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  Only baptised JWs will make it?

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i think it was a john cedars video or someone else’s where the point was brought up that only baptised jws will be saved?

  then one talk about kids of baptised jws hope they will make it but even them don’t know.

  most jws probably think that some good people who are not baptised may make it through, but this is not official teaching?.

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  Only Jehovah's Witnesses
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  Did Jesus say the God of the OT is not the same God as mine??

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  bart erhman states, in this you tube short presumably taken from the video series he has been doing with megan lewis*, that jesus said the god of the ot, the god of jeremiah, is not the (same)god as jesus.

  bart continues "jeremiah's god killed (the children) - jesus said let the children come to me.

  jesus' god said turn the other cheek" - the ot god was war-like etc (paraphrasing bart here a bit).. it's always been the thing that stopped my fully embracing the bible after leaving watchtower.

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  Creating doubt is a good thing, doubt is the engine that drives research. Without doubt where would curiosity be? What new truths would remain undiscovered if no-one ever doubted orthodoxy?

  I for one shall not be moved!!

  Terrible attitude. Fossils and corpses don't move, the living should be ever moving and inquisitive.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  nicolaou

  Lloyd films “sushi episodes” individually and tibor puts them together into one long video

  All this time I thought it was the other way around. Lloyd rambling on in a two to three hour video then Tibor chopping that up into smaller 'sushi' clips.

  My ignorance come from only ever having watched the meltdown video. It was a classic though. 😆
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  Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

  mark jones writes:.

  if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

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  nicolaou

  "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26

  I don't think Jesus is exactly a role model for promoting family unity.