I spoke today with a JW who is in Africa in one of the central countries. They had a letter read to the congregation this week that spelled out quite a number of precautions intended to prevent spread of Ebola. For instance, if anyone goes to a funeral, they are not to go in field service or to any meeting for three weeks. There haven't been any cases in that country yet, but there is definitely an awareness.
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Imagine an ebola pandemic where the only effective treatment is blood
by Mickey mouse ingive it a few months, perhaps all jws will have to make hard decisions about blood based treatments.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29084254.
the blood of patients who recover from ebola should be used to treat others, the world health organization has announced.. west africa is facing the largest ebola outbreak in history and more than 2,000 people have died.. a global group of experts have been meeting to assess the experimental therapies that could contain ebola.. the who also announced that ebola vaccines could be used on the frontline by november.. blood medicine.
people produce antibodies in the blood in an attempt to fight off an ebola infection.. in theory, those antibodies can be transferred from a survivor into a sick patient to give their immune system a boost.. however, large scale data on the effectiveness of the therapy is lacking.. studies on the 1995 outbreak of ebola in democratic republic of congo showed seven out of eight people survived after being given the therapy.. dr marie paule kieny, an assistant director general at who said: "we agreed that whole blood therapies may be used to treat ebola virus and all efforts must be invested to help infected countries to use them.. "there is a real opportunity that a blood-derived product can be used now and this can be very effective in terms of treating patients.".
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Jack The Ripper Unmasked?
by metatron inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/jack-ripper-unmasked-how-amateur-sleuth-used-dna-breakthrough-identify-britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html.
to be accepted as fact, these claims will have to be replicated.
metatron.
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dropoffyourkeylee
While I initially found the article on the whole very persuasive, after looking it over I'll reserve judgement until the other side weighs in. One thing the first article did not say is that there is indeed a book, to be available next week.
So it suggests that the news article is intended to stump for the book sales.
Why would anyone give is wife a blood stained shawl? And she didn't wear it because she didn't 'like' it? My wife would be grossed out - no way. Then to store it away like a family heirloom, to be sold at auction over 100 years later? Hmm.
It is possible that the whole thing is a hoax, beginning to end. Even the shawl could be a forgery, who knows at this point?
Just my 2 cents
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Lillian Gobitas Klose, the Jehovahs Witness who refused in 1935 to salute the American flag in Minersville, Pa. started a trail that ultimately changed American legal history died Aug. 22 at age 90
by Sol Reform inlillian gobitas klose, the jehovahs witness who refused in 1935 to salute the american flag in minersville, pa. started a trail that ultimately changed american legal history died aug. 22 at age 90. only three years after it had ruled against the gobitas family, the supreme court voted 6-3 to overturn that decision in a case involving a family of jehovahs witnesses from west virginia.. regardless of what one might think of jehovahs witnesses, lillian gobitas is an example of a person whose willingness to fight for her beliefs has expanded everyones personal freedoms.. http://republicanherald.com/news/minersville-girl-made-legal-history-1.1744279.
lillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtlillian gobitas klose sign the guest book.
atlanta news obituarieslillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtby elizabeth montgomery the atlanta journal-constitution.
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Today (one day after the original post) on of the top stories on CNN:
has a Florida city council meeting that begins with the Pledge. One of the observers refuses to stand and is expelled. The commentary accompanying the clip mentions a 1943 court case without mentioning the JWs specifically. I wonder if the 'protester' did so because of the death of Mrs Klose, or if it was simply a coincidence. Actually, I believe the Gobitas case was the one they lost in the late thirties, and the one they won was the Barnette case in '43.
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Come on! Tell it like it is. People are LYING when they tell you, "I've read the Bible."
by Terry ingo ahead.
tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.
i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.
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dropoffyourkeylee
In my youth I was a believer and I did read the NWT all the way through. It was very difficult to get through. Then, as a young adult, as I distanced myself from the WT, I read the Bible a lot, as well as other books. I read the Old Testament a couple of times (I found both the Living Bible and the Good News Bible to be good choices for the OT) and I read the New Testament many times, I'd say around 6 or 7 times, using different translations. I particularly liked J. B. Phillip's and the Revised English Bible for the New Testament.
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Brett King (Jehovah's Witness) Releases Video of why he removed his ill son, Ashya, from a UK hospital
by jwleaks in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14etqn9zpwk .
jw leaks.
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this is a top story for CNN right now. 8/31/2014
http://www.cnn.com/?hpt=sitenav
I don't see a JW connection from the video. No blood issue or other JW issue is evident from the video
, but similar issues have been faced by JWs before over the blood issue. It isn't clear to me that he is a JW, but I wouldn't be surprised.
I knew a family in the 70's in the midwest USA who removed their son from the hospital for blood-issue reasons, and were faced with similar criticism. Not supporting it, but I do believe the 'authorities' are sometimes misguided. ( He is still living and is doing OK, after over 35 years, if that means anything).
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Why was Gilead originally made into a Bombshelter!!!!
by Witness 007 inrutherford's book "enemies" 1937: "will great britain and america become fascist under catholic control?
the scriptures and the facts support that conclusion.
" where do you hide the bethel family from fascist catholics?.
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Rutherford seemed bent on bringing persecution down on the Witnesses, and some of his moves were stated to be made to prepare for the supposed persecution which he believed would come. One was the building of their own printing factory. Previously they had hired outside printers, and he wanted the ability to print his own without relying on outside firms. Another was the building of a bomb-shelter in San Diego (Beth Shan). A third was the building of the South Lansing facility, which cannot be described as a bomb shelter, but was definitely out of the way and could be viewed as a 'retreat' for the Bethel family of the time. We drove by the site this summer and snapped a couple of photos. The building has been sold some time ago (to the State of NY, if I remember correctly). You can still read 'Gilead' in the bricks over the main entrance. The area is really beautiful, just about a mile or so off the east side of Cayuga Lake, one of the Finger Lakes of upstate NY. An awesome place to visit and to vacation! Directly across the road is another farm called 'Kingdom' Farm which I believe the WT still owns and operates. There is one residence building and a few large barns. It doesn't appear to be a very large operation; there couldn't be more than 15-20 people living there.
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In what KM or literature were JW's told to not put the WT logo on podium or buildings?
by Wasanelder Once inin the 80's it became a trend to put the wt logo on the front of the speakers podium where others put a cross.
i always hated that and spoke against it to the body of elders.
i shut up and it was put there anyway untill a km came down that said not to do it.
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Another angle is that if a KH has Watchtower-style bricks built into the facade, it detracts from re-sale value
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Where did Russell steal 606/7 BCE from ?
by Phizzy inthis is something i have wondered about, and our great poster stillin posed the question on another thread .
russell get the idea that jerusalem was destroyed in 606/7 bce?
(he adjusted 606 to 607 when it was pointed out there was no year "0").. as in the main a plagiarist, rather than an original thinker, i guess he got it from someone else ?.
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dropoffyourkeylee
I've seen the 606 BC date in other pre-1900 non-Russell literature. It was commonly accepted chronology at that time. It didn't originate with Russell, but at that time is was not an unusual belief. I seem to remember it appeared in an old copy of Scofield's reference Bible I used to have.
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Read rare, historic letters about the draft from WT attorney, Hayden Covington, written to a young JW man.
by AndersonsInfo infor those who are interested in this subject, especially researchers and historians, i posted on my website extremely rare material dealing with one man's struggle to avoid being drafted into the us military for religious reasons.. this is a huge downloadable collection of correspondence between richard rawe, his draft board and government officials after he was ordered to report for military duty.
richard saved every letter and even the envelopes from the time he was called up for military duty when he was 18 in 1952 until 1960 when he was 26 and too old to be drafted.. what makes this collection unique and special is that there are many, many important private letters from watchtower attorney, hayden covington to richard containing instructions and advice.
this is historical material that allows us to peer into the legal mind of covington with regards to the draft situation during that time period.
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Fascinating. One striking thing that is surprising is the sheer amount of time that Covington's office spent on this individual case, answering specific questions for a single individual. If they did that for each and every one of the draft-age men it would have been a fulltime job for many people. Things are different now.
Another thing that is interesting is how often the individual is instructed to maintain his records of how much time he spends in 'ministry' to his 'congregation of laymen' (not the local congregation, but rather the people in the community who are visited), with specific recording of their names, the times they are visited, and almost all the details of the calls. I have always wondered if the initial purpose of the time records of the WT and the door-to-door records was exactly for this, to provide documentation in court for the draft board requirements, and that the use of the time records for JW control came in later.
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New Bethel Facility - Fort Lauderdale Remote Translation Office (RTO)
by daniel-p inhey all, it's been a long time since i've posted anything here.
this may be of interest to some people, or not.
and i'm not sure if this has been announced in the congregations, even, because thankfully i have not attended any meetings in quite some time.
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Do we know for sure that this story about Ft Lauderdale isn't perhaps the same place as the Palm Coast purchase recently which is a bit north of Ft. Lauderdale? You know how rumours spread, and facts get distorted. We know the Palm Coast story is true from news reports, but so far nothing that I have seen about Ft. Lauderdale.