Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

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AD1914.com Website has about 300 Pix from Rutherford's FBI File for 1917 and 1918

by Gilgamesh in

barbara anderson had a great idea for the ad1914.com website that launched on october 1st (2014).

it's still getting a lot of attention even though it was especially launched to make a splash for october 1 & 2. i'm currently one of the admin/editors and i have a lot more respect now for everyone who runs a website.. the purpose of the site is to continue to focus attention on the 1914 doctrine and related doctrines.

to keep getting attention there is now a facebook page and a twitter account where new updated articles are mentioned.. i don't think anyone behind the site thinks that 1914 is such an important issue when there are real issues such as "high-control," blood & medical coercion, lifestyle coercion, hypocrisy/honesty issues, child abuse, 'persons having no natural affection,' shunning, etc, and the religion has therefore become a hotbed of psychological and emotional turmoil.. but 1914 is still one of those "weak links" in the chain that has exposed the so-called "faithful and discreet slave" as dishonest, unfaithful, unwise, indiscreet, and ever unable to serve spiritual food at the proper time.. ultimately, the goal of the site will be, not to compete with other sites that have done such a great job of exposing the watch tower doctrines and practices.

dropoffyourkeylee

Thanks for putting these documents up. They are a little out of order and unorganized, but still really interesting. There are a couple of letters by and about Charles Fekel (later a GB member) where he got himself arrested in 1918 for selling the Finished Mystery book.

I had to laugh at one page where a government agent went to a lecture at a Bible Student meeting where the speaker 'looked like and undertaker and spoke like a barber', and the agent went on and on about how boring it was. Hilarious.

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

dropoffyourkeylee

I can't imagine what the GB and their legal staff is thinking. A reported case of child abuse... report to the police... How hard is that? Why have a policy any different? Because a book written 3000 years ago says something different? The WT religion is making a fool of itself.

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Honduras bus crash leaves 14 dead and 55 injured - JW

by TheTruthBR in

honduras bus crash leaves 14 dead and 55 injuredbus veered off road and crashed into ravine.

by ruth doherty, nov 1, 2014. updated: november 1, 2014 8:10 am.

afp/getty images.

dropoffyourkeylee

I'm deeply sorry for these folks, they could be my mom and dad. I've been on some of those roads in Central America, and they are not safe; the drivers are nuts and there are almost no guardrails and safeguards. It isn't a time to point out the failures of the WT Society, (there are plenty of other times to do that).

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Please Give Me Your Thoughts On Unusual Elderly Behavior....(thanks)

by minimus in

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my girlfriend's dad who is 82 lost his second wife to cancer last october.

while she was dying, he secretly was seeing another woman, in her 60s.

long story short, a month after the wife's death, they both moved in together and in early june , they secretly got married.

dropoffyourkeylee

a similar situation with my dad. he got remarried at age 88 to a 73 year old. She is not a bad lady, no complaints there, but his motives and actions are nit clear. He has an increasing problem of dementia and is not making good decisions ( about anything) He resented me stating the obvious ( that he needs help) and got this lady to marry him even though she had not spent more than 50 hours in his company. She didn't realize how advanced his dementia was until too late. Now she is pretty much a care giver and it is wearing her down. Meanwhile they have moved away 700 miles from me and he won't talk to me. i've had three short conversations with him since Nov. 2011. I am not DF'd. I hear he has cut me out of his will ( its not the money but the thought of it that bothers me).

In his case it is very much a problem of dementia and paranoia against anyone who states the obvious( that he has dementia).

maybe its off topic , but thats my story

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The 1995 Ebola Zaire outbreak was started by a JW

by ILoveTTATT in

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the dead man is gaspard menga, a jehovah's witness who was the first person to contract ebola in 1995. the people around him, are his family.

within a month, most of the ones on this picture were dead from ebola.

it was because of gaspard that we now know that african burial rites are a mayor cause in spreading ebola.

dropoffyourkeylee

I read somewhere that Menga was the only JW in his family.

I have a family member living in that country. There are serious precautions in Congo right now due to the Ebola threat. For instance, if someone goes to a funeral, they are not allowed to go in service or to any meeting for three weeks.

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BOE re:Adjusted Process to Accelerate Kingdom Hall Construction

by TTATTelder in

may 12, 2014. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: adjusted process to accelerate kingdom hall construction.

dear brothers:.

dropoffyourkeylee

For some reason, the letter concerning this (pledges to be taken next week for an amount which is expected to equal or exceed the mortgage payment which was relieved 4 months ago) was read just tonight (9/24/14). Not sure why they waited 4 months to read it, perhaps had something to do with the fact that we had been making a mortgage payment until the first letter was read in the spring. (midwest rural US)

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Who was the Gilead Student that jumped overboard?

by VM44 in

a gilead student from thailand.

a young thai girl who came to new york to attend the gilead school in upstate south lansing, new york, had a mental breakdown.

staff members pleaded with president knorr to send her home by plane, under supervision.

dropoffyourkeylee

Russell Kurzen also learned of the tragedy. The distressing news was then relayed to several members of the staff. When Knorr heard that the news was being circulated among the headquarters personnel, he was furious. Both men were reprimanded, and removed from their positions

If Russell Kurzen was removed from his position, it must have been temporary, because when I met him (about '77-'78) he was the desk receptionist at one of the buildings (I think it was either the 107 building or the 119 building)

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Imagine an ebola pandemic where the only effective treatment is blood

by Mickey mouse in

give it a few months, perhaps all jws will have to make hard decisions about blood based treatments.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29084254.

the blood of patients who recover from ebola should be used to treat others, the world health organization has announced.. west africa is facing the largest ebola outbreak in history and more than 2,000 people have died.. a global group of experts have been meeting to assess the experimental therapies that could contain ebola.. the who also announced that ebola vaccines could be used on the frontline by november.. blood medicine.

people produce antibodies in the blood in an attempt to fight off an ebola infection.. in theory, those antibodies can be transferred from a survivor into a sick patient to give their immune system a boost.. however, large scale data on the effectiveness of the therapy is lacking.. studies on the 1995 outbreak of ebola in democratic republic of congo showed seven out of eight people survived after being given the therapy.. dr marie paule kieny, an assistant director general at who said: "we agreed that whole blood therapies may be used to treat ebola virus and all efforts must be invested to help infected countries to use them.. "there is a real opportunity that a blood-derived product can be used now and this can be very effective in terms of treating patients.".

dropoffyourkeylee

I spoke today with a JW who is in Africa in one of the central countries. They had a letter read to the congregation this week that spelled out quite a number of precautions intended to prevent spread of Ebola. For instance, if anyone goes to a funeral, they are not to go in field service or to any meeting for three weeks. There haven't been any cases in that country yet, but there is definitely an awareness.

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Jack The Ripper Unmasked?

by metatron in

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746321/jack-ripper-unmasked-how-amateur-sleuth-used-dna-breakthrough-identify-britains-notorious-criminal-126-years-string-terrible-murders.html.

to be accepted as fact, these claims will have to be replicated.

metatron.

dropoffyourkeylee

While I initially found the article on the whole very persuasive, after looking it over I'll reserve judgement until the other side weighs in. One thing the first article did not say is that there is indeed a book, to be available next week.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/johnny-depp-inspired-the-hunt-for-the-real-jack-the-ripper-20140908-10dpay.html

So it suggests that the news article is intended to stump for the book sales.

Why would anyone give is wife a blood stained shawl? And she didn't wear it because she didn't 'like' it? My wife would be grossed out - no way. Then to store it away like a family heirloom, to be sold at auction over 100 years later? Hmm.

It is possible that the whole thing is a hoax, beginning to end. Even the shawl could be a forgery, who knows at this point?

Just my 2 cents

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Lillian Gobitas Klose, the Jehovahs Witness who refused in 1935 to salute the American flag in Minersville, Pa. started a trail that ultimately changed American legal history died Aug. 22 at age 90

by Sol Reform in

lillian gobitas klose, the jehovahs witness who refused in 1935 to salute the american flag in minersville, pa. started a trail that ultimately changed american legal history died aug. 22 at age 90. only three years after it had ruled against the gobitas family, the supreme court voted 6-3 to overturn that decision in a case involving a family of jehovahs witnesses from west virginia.. regardless of what one might think of jehovahs witnesses, lillian gobitas is an example of a person whose willingness to fight for her beliefs has expanded everyones personal freedoms.. http://republicanherald.com/news/minersville-girl-made-legal-history-1.1744279.

lillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtlillian gobitas klose sign the guest book.

atlanta news obituarieslillian gobitas klose, 90; test of faith went to u.s. supreme courtby elizabeth montgomery the atlanta journal-constitution.

dropoffyourkeylee

Today (one day after the original post) on of the top stories on CNN:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2014/09/03/pkg-florida-pledge-of-allegiance-protest.cnn.html

has a Florida city council meeting that begins with the Pledge. One of the observers refuses to stand and is expelled. The commentary accompanying the clip mentions a 1943 court case without mentioning the JWs specifically. I wonder if the 'protester' did so because of the death of Mrs Klose, or if it was simply a coincidence. Actually, I believe the Gobitas case was the one they lost in the late thirties, and the one they won was the Barnette case in '43.