Posts by NewYork44M

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Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

by minimus in

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i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

NewYork44M

As a child growing up there were a few in the congregation that really got into the detail of the belief system. My mother was one of these few. I always enjoyed listening to the conversations she would have with others of like mind. While ultimately my belief system went a different direction, I had a very high respect for those who took the time to try to understand the detail of their belief system.

I have no respect for those who who took no time to understand the detail of what they believed. This status probably describes 99% of current JWs. It is impossible to have a conversation with these people because they have no idea what they believe, and more importantly - why they believe what they say.

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How many times did you see a JW start a business

by karter in

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with the intention of spending less time working and more time in f.s i saw this many times.

an ex c.o started a carpet cleaning business with the charter being spending less time working more time in f.s.

he has long since passed away and the company is now huge being the major player in flood resteration and employing 100's of people one of the owners i spoke to recently was sick due to using to many chemicals but carries on becouse he loves the money even though he's worth millions.

NewYork44M

I have see the "brothers" follow two basic tracks in business. The first being multi level marketing. This almost always ends in disaster. The business continues to until the marketers reach their credit limit on the credit cards when they buy their inventory.

The other being some sort of cleaning or other service related business. A person can eke out a living doing this. But I have never seen anyone get rich. I always hear about those that get rich with a cleaning business, but never met any of these people. Nor have I reviewed their financial statements.

We had an elder with a TrimLine franchise. I understand that ended in disaster. There were a number of brothers involved in the carpet cleaning business. I forget the name, but with all story's of wealth, I never saw any of it. Just a lot of very hard work with little payback.

With my financial background as a CPA, an brother asked me to review his books in his cleaning business. He was convinced that he was making a fortune, but from what I saw, he was barely making enough to pay off the capital investments of the machines.

Starting and maintaining a small business is very hard work. It requires skills beyond the scope of most people. I admire those who succeed. Unfortunately, the religion creates one additional barrier to success.

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Watchtower letter head

by greenhornet in

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i have a question about the letters the watchtower would send to the congregations about 20 to 30 years ago.. on the top of the letter it would say watchtower then the address in brooklyn and phone number, and the word cable watchtower.

my question is what does cable mean?

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NewYork44M

Cable Watchtower was the pre-twitter equivalent Twitter account. It is hard to believe the internet is a new phenomena.

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Jehovah God is Real

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

NewYork44M

Jehovah is not real. There is nothing to prove. What is real is that within the next 100 years, everyone posting on this thread will be dead. Someone should think about that a million years from now.

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Leonard Cohen - a tribute

by NewYork44M in

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i have gotten hooked on podcasts, one of which is fresh air, a pbs podcast.

this past week the re-aired an interview with the late leonard cohen.

here is a link to the pbs site that includes the interview:.

NewYork44M

I read his history and, yes he had a lot to be bitter about. But the interview he did prior to his death had none of the bitterness that might be expected.

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If this system goes on.

by karter in

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i heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.

years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..

NewYork44M

The end is near, in 100 years, we will all be dead.

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Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

by Room 215 in

i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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NewYork44M

I can't help but believe that this is a colossal mistake. Brooklyn Heights is the history of the Wt. Their identity has always been linked to the buildings in Brooklyn. I think they have walked away from a historic anchor that many old (and not so old-timers) timers cherished.

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Leonard Cohen - a tribute

by NewYork44M in

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i have gotten hooked on podcasts, one of which is fresh air, a pbs podcast.

this past week the re-aired an interview with the late leonard cohen.

here is a link to the pbs site that includes the interview:.

NewYork44M

I have gotten hooked on podcasts, one of which is Fresh Air, a PBS podcast. This past week the re-aired an interview with the late Leonard Cohen. Here is a link to the PBS site that includes the interview:

http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2016/11/11/501616131/love-itself-leonard-cohens-holy-touch

Since listening to the interview, I have spent quality time listening to his songs. What is expressed is deep, dark, and extremely poetic. As I grow older, I continue to increase in my appreciation of the written word.

Here are two songs that we all have heard. You will appreciate the music and words more as you expand your awarness of his music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg

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Australian Royal Commission mentions that G. Jackson was inconsistent

by Daniel1555 in

it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.

when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.

mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..

NewYork44M

The whole FDS concept is so goofy a primary beneficiary of the belief system could not confirm what is the basis of his power. I wonder if he really is a non believer.

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My funniest stand up JW Jokes so far

by usualusername1 in

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in the last couple of months, i have been practising my stand up.

so far these are my best jokes:.

not celebrating birthdays and christmas has saved me so much money.

NewYork44M

Thanks. The best of your jokes:

Going to my first Birthday Party as an adult was rather embarrassing. I had to download the lyrics to the song Happy Birthday.

Very funny.