it gives me heartburn too watersprout - seeing how Shelby is misrepresenting the Romans, Roman rule and Roman women - wikipedia is a better source than her Lord. On the other hand, Shelby if this is what you were taught at university and not by the Lord, please share your sources. Also why has the Lord not corrected your understanding on this and also allowed you to make such a hatchet job of 1Tim2:11-15. Why has he not stopped you denigrating Jews to the extent that we are now to imagine the Jews of Paul's day as people who were persecuting christian women to such a degree that pregnancy would be a protection.
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Childbirth, A Protection For Women (Per Paul)... How?
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.
this will be the second "reward" that i have the privilege of sharing with you today.
if you recall, i have shared with you that virtually every time i've gone through a fairly grueling "battle" for our lord... i receive a "reward".
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Childbirth, A Protection For Women (Per Paul)... How?
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.
this will be the second "reward" that i have the privilege of sharing with you today.
if you recall, i have shared with you that virtually every time i've gone through a fairly grueling "battle" for our lord... i receive a "reward".
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also paterfamilias has reference to three generation households and applied in a legal sense and refers to legal niceties rather than to real life as such households were atypical and not the norm. Most paterfamily heads did not live long to see their offspring reach adulthood and so paternal interference was probably minimal. For reference please see the book entitled The Roman Family by Suzanne Dixon (1992).
edit: Shelby I have a lot of empathy for you but if you are going to dish the dirt on other peoples to elevate your own agenda and if you are going to do it the extent that you are at present then I have to publicly disagree with you.
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Childbirth, A Protection For Women (Per Paul)... How?
by AGuest into the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!.
this will be the second "reward" that i have the privilege of sharing with you today.
if you recall, i have shared with you that virtually every time i've gone through a fairly grueling "battle" for our lord... i receive a "reward".
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shelby, I have to agree with Zid re Roman and Greek women.
and this statement of yours is plainly wrong
It was unlawful, under ROMAN rule... for women to speak to or meet with men PUBLICLY... or for men to teach WOMEN (anything, and certainly not PUBLICLY). where did you get this info from. Women could meet and speak to men publicly under Roman rule. Why are you misrepresenting Roman women in this way?
men could also teach women and they could do this publicly too. I must really take issue with you when you frame the Romans and Greeks in such a bad light to promote ancient Jewish women in a good light
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I heard a voice from Spirit, Dont be afraid, I am God.
by mosesimon ini heard a voice from spirit, dont be afraid, i am god.
then i looked into the bible automatically, which was open in my hands, then i saw chapter name holy spirit, written on it, like psalms, matthew , through bible only god talking with me by writing letters in it.
god told,"i am blessing you, do my work, convert hindus as christians.
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welcome mosesimon from Hyderabad, India. I hope you enjoy your visit to JWN and you are in good company as many here see visions and hear God speak to them.
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Difficulties understanding passage.
by s-c-3-1-3 ini am reading colossians 1:15-18, and understand it to mean that jehovah created jesus who then created all other things in the world, thus jesus crall things except for god who created him.
is this correct?
thanks in advance!.
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SC313 - welcome
"By" can mean "by means of" and Jehovahs witnesses render the translation in this way. This is the tidying up reply you will receive from Jehovahs witnesses. However the story is much more untidy than that imo and much less reductionist. For example, taking your point, I agree that Jehovah himself needs to be seen as being part of the equation and I would go further and suggest that we also see him as being part of the created process - as the verse is not clear about leaving Jehovah himself out of the created picture. A way to reconcile this is to view the creation as ongoing - Jehovah and Jesus and we all are both affect and effect of creation (creation in the sense of transformation). the Greek word (ktzo - κτιζω) translated created also contains the idea of transformation, of founding and not just the idea of bringing to life. Indeed I would prefer to say transforming rather than creating (if the verb is seen in its infinitve rather than the aorist form). Here I am giving the whole thing a Nietzschean flavour filtered through other philosophers. So in this sort of scenario we are all bringing to life endlessly (here incorporating the complete range of the word translated as created - transforming, founding, bringing to life). Often this goal is unconscious but it is more rewarding to make it a conscious aim?
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Anglo-Catholic
by Band on the Run ini hope this is n ot a repeat thread.
new year's day i attended services at a first rate anglo-catholic church.
despite being episcopal since about the age of 20, this service was so different.
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imo there are quite a few similarities between Mary veneration/worship (as understood by protestantism) and Roman female deities/mythological figures but there are differences too. However we cannot ignore the similarities and indeed quite a few ancient sources when depiciting Mary also contain much pagan allusion. I like this about catholicism and am not bringing this to the table to criticise Catholics or Catholicism. But I think when Anglicanism make its break with Rome it was able to make use of such allusive pagan iconography encapsulated in the figure of Mary to distance itself from Catholicism, so that when the break finally came Mary worship/veneration was discarded altogether.
edit: excellent thread BOTR.
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ADVICE TO BAND ON THE RUN
by wasblind inband on the run,.
used the words theatened, thugged , posse, and ghettoese.
in a post of hers and claims this so-called "posse".
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I see I am not part of the posse then
happy new year to you all
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Hello! Good Morning! and How IS Everyone??
by AGuest inpeace to you all... and isn't it a magnificent day?
doesn't matter, does it, whether it's raining, snowing, sun is shining, cold, warm, wet, hot... you're alive to see it!!
so, get up, if you haven't already... and do the day!
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good morning Shelby
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Breaking News from Steve Unthank - Police Launch Investigation into Traralgon Congregation
by Broken Promises inaustralia, breaking news: police launch investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children with the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
jw news can report that victoria police have launched an investigation into the rape and molestation of a number of children within the traralgon congregation of jehovah's witnesses over the past two years.
according to initial reports,... the body of elders were strictly ordered by the watchtower bible and tract society of australia to cover-up the multiple rapes of a number of children within the traralgon congregation allegedly committed by a fellow member of the jehovah's witness religion.
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I_falcon
Is it wise to post incomplete details of the exact matter while it is still not even investigated, BUT POST THE SPECIFIC CONGREGATION INVOLVED?!
true
But we all express different opinions and different levels of disgust. It isn't all disgust all the time
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Merry Pantsmas Everyone!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite inokay, i posted this in a thread that got locked and buried.
since then i've been really busy and have overdosed on christmas music in the past week.
so, i'm resurrecting this "holy day" holiday that most people will unknowingly be celebrating tomorrow.
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merry pantsmas