Posts by ScenicViewer

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Help finding a video of GB member saying that Jehovah may not really be God's name

by mamacita29 in

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hi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.

i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.

can someone help me find that video?

ScenicViewer

Is the Trinity widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No.

Is the concept of an Immortal Soul widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No

Is the idea of all good people Going to Heaven widely accepted? Yes. Does it make sense for JWs accept it? No.

- As opposed to -

Geoffrey Jackson: Why do we use the name 'Jehovah' in English? [...] It is because it is the most widely accepted. Does this make sense? Yes.

Straightening out the proper pronunciation of the Divine Name would have been a perfect opportunity for JWs to take a stand for the 'Truth,' but instead they took the route of convenience, which is to support what is 'widely accepted' by the world.

Convoluted thinking and double standards are the trade mark of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Protest for Mandatory Reporting?

by Luther bertrand in

on another thread, i have been having a discussion about protests in connection with watchtower policy.

one of the biggest and more re-occuring rebuttals to protesting at kingdom halls and assemblies is that it does two things: 1. it re-enforces the apostate "mentally diseased" narrative heaped on the xjw community by the gb 2. it causes people to withdraw and get closer to the borg.. what if we as a group took the protest to city halls and government authorities to raise awareness of the need for mandatory reporting laws, rather than protesting @jw events?

hell even geoffry jackson, when he gave his testimony at the arc, agreed that it would be "helpful".

ScenicViewer

I believe education is far more effective than protest when it comes to religion. Web sites like this one, JWfacts and others are the answer to waking up Jehovah's Witnesses.

Watchtower itself operates behind the concept of 'freedom of religion.' That won't change, and all the protest in the world will probably be counter productive. However the people within the religion can come out of it, and that will happen better through education than anything else.

Just my thoughts.

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DA letter sent... It was weird!

by Mandrake in

well i was telling you days ago that i wrote my da letter... i decided to deliver it myself to the elders.

it'a been about a year i didn't show up nor talk to the majority of old friends.

one of my best friends (who's is 2-3 years older than me, i'm 25) is now an elder... some times i don't understand him, he's an engineer from a prestigious university (the most prestigious universities here in chile, are 2, the one from where he got his degree and the one i'm attending)... he even red crisis of conscience and has doubts... but still endured inside.. my congo were based in our historic city downtown, so our territory was small... i parked my car near the hall and walked near for a while while the meeting was over.

ScenicViewer

...it seems that this is the longest thing I ever wrote in English that it's not academic!

Your broken English is beautiful and a pleasure to read. Thank you!

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GB bites off more than they can chew!

by biblexaminer in

the gb bit off more than they can chew.

they promised that the nwt revised would be available in so many languages by now, and they have failed miserably.. english stands alone.

as a result, they are in damage control mode.

ScenicViewer

Thanks for the information Biblexaminer.

It should come as no surprise by now that you can't believe the experiences and quotes in Watchtower's literature, but it still does.

If the original remarks (from the 11-1-07 W) are being dishonestly recycled to make them appear to be recent remarks praising the rNWT (in the 12-15-15 W), then how do we know the original remarks aren't lies too?

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Music Video: Would Jesus Wear a Rolex on JW Broadcasting? - PARODY

by cappytan in

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this took quite a while this evening.

so worth it though.

hope you enjoy!

ScenicViewer

Makemeanunbeliever: It doesn't take much effort to find and mock flaws. It takes greater effort and caring to point out the strengths.

Exactly what strengths was Watchtower pointing to when it wrote this...

The Watchtower, August 15, 1994: "In stark contrast, news reports have time and again revealed many of the clergy in some lands to be pedophiles, immoral swindlers, and frauds. Their works of the flesh and their extravagant life-styles are manifest for all to see. One popular songwriter expressed it well in his song entitled "Would Jesus Wear a Rolex [a very expensive gold watch] on His Television Show?"

Does it matter if the GB members wear real Rolexes or not? Watchtower has constantly reminded JWs that they should never imitate the world. The pinky rings, gold watches and other gold jewelry that is being flashed are clearly in imitation of the very thing Watchtower is condemning in the song that is referred to in the above quote.

If you are going to badmouth someone for a certain behavior, you should distance yourself from that same behavior, not imitate it. Whether the jewelry is real or fake is beside the point.

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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!

by redpilltwice in

well, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.

thank you all for the encouraging replies.

one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.

ScenicViewer

I'd like to know more about the Underground Movement too. Is it an organized thing, or a loose collection of ones with doubts, or just scattered individuals?

Do you have to be an active Witness to be in it? Attending meetings just from time to time?

Myself, I haven't been to a meeting or assembly in 9 years and have absolutely no intention of returning.

You an PM me with information is you wish.

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FEB 2016 broadcast

by Grey Goose in

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it might be the craziest one yet..

ScenicViewer

That video was a complete waste of good bread.

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Collection of Flip Flops

by juandefiero in

hey there.. a while back, someone declared they were no longer going to participate in this forum, however they left behind an amazing legacy.

it was a collection of watchtower flip flops (old light vs. nu-lite) all in one document, fully referenced.. i downloaded a copy of the document, however i completely forgot who the user was that shared it.. any clue?.