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  They STILL might be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

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  2. beliefs

  big news - i met with the elders last night.

  they were not arrogant and they were not mean spirited, but of course we all know they also would not budge from the jw brainwashed beliefs they are sworn to uphold.

  i let my light shine, and within two minutes of sitting down with them was no longer nervous.. .

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  ScenicViewer

  RayPublisher, you have done an AMAZING job of planting seeds of truth in those elders!

  If they are indeed waiting for a reply from Brooklyn you will likely be DF'd, since those replys are cold, without human feeling, and show no regard for truth, but there may be someone on that JC that you have touched, and who is struggling with their own conscience as a result. There could be very positive results down the road because of what you have done.

  Congrats on the great presentation you made to them! I can't tell you how encouraging this post is.
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  Watchtower Dishonesty

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just re-discovered this gem:.

  "it is a matter of fact that the history of the watchtower society is riddled with failed date-setting and abandoned doctrine,1 and the society has gone to great lengths to hide this past from its members.

  older (incriminating) watchtower publications are virtually impossible to obtain through the society,2 while at the same time members are overwhelmed with "current" watchtower material.. the watchtower society has even gone as far as to publish disinformation about its own history in an attempt to convince readers that watchtower doctrine has remained consistent over the years, and that the society is not a false prophet.

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  For many years I've had problems with Watchtower beliefs, teachings, and methods. It's only in the last two years that I've been able to put my finger on the one big, overriding problem with the Society. For me, it's organizational dishonesty!

  Whether it's past teachings that have been abandoned, the long list of false prophecies, the UN involvement, blood or other medical issues, double standards regarding neutrality, or anything else, the Society always responds to it's flaws the same way...by spinning, white washing, re-writing...in other words, with dishonesty!

  This religion cannot survive without lying!

  Thanks for this post.
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  Latest Watchtower Cover

  by processor in

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  2. beliefs

  almost correct .... .

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  Is there a little something wrong with those eyes, like they are looking in two different directions? They seem odd.

  Maybe it's just me.
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  Latest news on the new JW.org

  by rip van winkle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  up and running for 1 week.

  started with 139 languages.

  currently 155 languages.

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  "Jehovah's Witnesses are the coolest religion!"

  Maybe it's supposed to look like it comes from a newly interested person, but it sounds like something a zealous Witness, posing as a non-Witness, would say. And a very young one at that.
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  Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?

  by LV101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  any suggestions?

  attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.

  i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).

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  ScenicViewer

  Did you know that watchtowers have a strong pagan connection, and that there is not one single example in the Bible of a faithful servant of God using a watchtower icon as a symbol of his religious beliefs?

  Yet JWs live and die by what the Watchtower (the Society)tells them.
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  What Proof Is There That Rutherford Was Responsible For The Pyramid Monument Near CTR's Grave?

  by JWB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what proof is there that rutherford was responsible for the pyramid monument near ctr's grave?.

  "charles taze russell died in 1916, the pyramid marker was installed in 1921 (5 years after his death), and the the masonic temple was built in the mid 1990s, these items have nothing to do with pastor russell's grave.

  the masonic temple is not even on the cemetery grounds, it is a different property altogether.

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  @ JWB,

  Here are some scans from the 1919 Convention Report that pertain to the Pyramid.

  The article that NeverKnew so carefully wrote out is included.

  Edit: JWB, sorry about the cross post. As I was preparing these pages you posted the link to the 1919 Convention Report.

  

  

  

  The "At The Grave" article is enlarged for easier reading.

  

  
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  Watchtower Argues on Behalf of Jimmy Swaggart

  by 144001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts filed an amicus brief in the u.s. supreme court case of jimmy swaggart v. board of equalization of california, and actually argued that swaggart should win this case.

  in response to numerious requests i have received, here it is: .

  http://kvisit.com/snsujag.

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  ScenicViewer

  Thanks, I can get in now too!

  Clickable,

  http://kvisit.com/SnsuJAg
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  Watchtower Argues on Behalf of Jimmy Swaggart

  by 144001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts filed an amicus brief in the u.s. supreme court case of jimmy swaggart v. board of equalization of california, and actually argued that swaggart should win this case.

  in response to numerious requests i have received, here it is: .

  http://kvisit.com/snsujag.

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  ScenicViewer

  I'd like to follow up with this information, but when I tried to copy and paste the address into my web browser I got no results.

  Is something missing from the web address?
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  What race or ethnicity would you think this old guy is?

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i mean, to be so well-muscled at a wrinkly old age.... look at them gunz.. .

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  This is very odd. I see hair on the shoulder and a beard.

  It looks half human and half ape to me.

  So we get to see the whole picture later?
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  The Jehovah's Witness Dog Whistle Doctrine

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the dog whistle is a device only heard by dogs.

  ordinary humans cannot hear it.. .

  the watcthower dog whistle doctrine is only "heard" by anointed governing body members.

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  Terry,

  Very nice presentation! It had not occurred to me that the Society got the "6,000 years of human existence" wrong, TWICE! At first it ended in 1873, then in 1975, and neither time did the expected final events happen.

  I have known the significance of 1873 for a while now, but it just never sunk in that the "Slave" got the 6,000 years wrong two times.

  Thanks for that information. Sometimes there is a thread that moves me to keep notes from it, and this is one of them.