johnny santa cruz and i met around 1959 at a movie theater in fort worth, texas.. the purpose of that meeting was to create a fanclub for horror movie director william castle.
a week or so later, johnny stopped me as i was walking home from elementary school.. "hey--i think i know you.
weren't you at the william castle fanclub thing?".
I don't think you need to be invited to the funeral...
I agree. Since when are invitations handed out to ordinary funerals? Just go; if anyone objects they can deal with it, and others will likely be glad to see you.
So sorry your friend is gone. It seems he wasn't that old.
reading a report of an elder in a friends cong has been hiding and spying on the pioneers who seem to have a practise of dumping the cart and finding a local coffee shop, i've noticed that they do this in my local high street as well but this week they seemed to be all huddled around the cart, they've clearly been warned, a vast percentage of the time i see they seem to be more interested in fiddling with their mobile phones and gossiping, is just seems these carts are a means for the pioneers to turn in "easy time" i wonder what sort of figures show how much literature is being taken by the public?
i bet its very minimal.
naturally the gb would say they are a phenomenal success , we clearly know they are not.
insidetheKH (describing this site): "The same kind of topics, the same mantra's , the same kind of views and thoughts etc. etc. Its just an endless repetition."
You just described Jehovah's Witnesses to a tee -- (The gentile times have ended, Armageddon is just around the corner, We must act now, The time left is reduced, Always trust the faithful and discreet slave, etc, etc, said endlessly for almost 140 years) -- yet you joined them? That's very puzzling.
during the wt study yesterday i had a confused look on my face the whole meeting.
more of a, wtf, face.
one paragraph says, "therefore,the number of partakers does not accurately indicate the number of anointed ones left on earth.".
If the number of partakers isn't an accurate count of the anointed, then how many other numbers are wrong too? It all stems from the integrity of Jehovah's Witnesses, so if some are in effect lying about being anointed, how many other lies are JWs telling?
They shoot themselves in the foot when they acknowledge something like this, but then since they printed in the Watchtower that the number of anointed is declining, and that it is "conclusive proof" that we are in the last days, they have put themselves between a rock and a hard place. They can't say the increased number is true, but when they say it's false it makes them look very bad.
It couldn't happen to a more deserving religion.
what has changed in the last 7 years?
just curious .... 1) do they still shun?
what's the policy on da's, df's and a?.
Esse quam videri: Information? Just what 'information' are you talking about?
The point of my post was to show the drastic reduction in literature production, primarily the Watchtower and Awake magazines, that has taken place over the past several years as evidenced by the amount of printed information going to the public now vs then....16 pages per month (now) vs 128 pages per month (then).
I suppose the point of your post is that Watchtower literature doesn't contain anything that qualifies as information, is that right? If I had to choose from the list of definitions for information that you provided I would take "(2) specific and organized for a purpose," the purpose the magazines being to promote the Watchtower religion.
The opening post asked about organizational changes in the past several years, my post addressed one change. I was not making a remark about the quality or lack of quality of the information in the magazines.
what has changed in the last 7 years?
just curious .... 1) do they still shun?
what's the policy on da's, df's and a?.
Not on your list, but the Watchtower and Awake magazines have been severely reduced. For many decades they were placed together as 'companion' magazines, and there were 2 of each every month. Each magazine had 32 pages for a total of 128 pages of information, every month, going door to door.
Now the magazines are 16 pages each, and only one of them goes door to door each month, a single Watchtower one month, then a single Awake the next. They keep alternating this way.
That is 16 pages of information currently going to the public each month vs 128 pages just a few years ago - that's just 1/8 as much information, a sharp decline!
are df, da and apostates still shunned?
are each treated differently?
i heard a secondhand report that they seemed to have eased up on this practice ...
There is a part on this summer's District Convention program entitled Shun Unrepentant Wrongdoers. The practice is not only alive and well, there may be more emphasis on it recently.
http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/controversial-2016-district-convention-program-leaked-loyalty-demanded-shunning-threatened
and we are suposed to trust these guys with our lives?
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So, the Telly company sells you trophies under the guise of making you think you won something?
That is such a PERFECT TOOL for Watchtower to delude Jehovah's Witnesses with!
we both are 21 years old.
we both are 21 years old.
i am almost done with my study and working on to become one of an unbaptized publisher.
I am curious what would come to us especially to her since she is baptize...
More would happen to her than you since she is baptized. Dating a non-witness isn't a disfellowshipping offense, although that could be a gray area with some elders, but she would at least be marked if she continues to see you. Being marked is half way to being disfellowshipped.
If she is marked a talk would be given explaining what has happened, then the elders would make sure the congregation knew who was being marked even if her name isn't mentioned in that same talk. A marked person can be talked to and associated with at meetings, but not so much away from meetings.
Her pioneering would be gone for sure.
As others have said, this is a very controlling religion even at times when it should mind its own business. If you decide to get baptized into the JW religion you should be prepared for a life that is full of this same controlling behavior.
there's two sides to the explanation of petrified wood not sure yet about what creationists say about petrified dung.
on one side evelutionists say it's a long process the creationists say it happen rapidly caused by noah's flood and after.
has anyone really looked into this argument to see if there a decisive way to show the bible believers wrong.
Well the Biblical account would still be wrong then. See also footnotes in NWT for Gen 6:6, 11
I'm curious. What should I dig out, the original NWT or the Revised NWT? Or does it matter?
the wt used to be rich for the quality of their public speakers, at the top of the ladder were the dos motivating the brothers on a weekly basis.
some of them used very folksy experiences related to the brothers as motivational tools, when you left the convention those experiences were the talk of the town.
i remember one very well qualified brother serving as do that was constantly using those sort of experiences as part of his arsenal, at one time he related one about a sister that new that she was going to die soon and while meeting with the family and brothers for final preparations she requested to be buried with a fork in her hand.
Governing Body member Stephen Lett illustrated 'forever' by a parakeet filling the Grand Canyon one grain of sand at a time. It had been used before, including by evangelist John Ankerberg, with slight changes - Ankerberg used the moon I think.
Lett: Parakeet and sand illustration ends with “forever has just barely begun”
Ankerberg: Parakeet and sand illustration ends with “eternity would just be beginning”
Discussion here, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/225010/bro-lett-governing-body-borrowed-illustration-from-outspoken-wt-critic?page=1&size=20
