for what it's worth, the following image was sent to me in an anonymous email so i can't testify to its authenticity.
she (or he, since it wasn't signed) says he/she was one of the bethel housekeepers and spotted the name tag in a waste basket.
at that time, the early 70's, knorr was regarded by many, including this person, (though disliked by even many bethelites) as god-like.
Band on the Run asked,
I wonder if ex-Witnesses, scholars, or Witnesses collect. Perhaps all three.
There are a lot of people who collect Watchtower memorabelia; I assume most of them are Witnesses. There are quite a few sellers who regularly list on ebay, as well as websites dedicated to selling Watchtower items. Here is one of those sites; brouse through it and have a look at some of the prices.
As George said, that name tag with Knorr's signature would probably get lots of interest.
two years to go, and an embarrassing whole century will have gone by after 1914 -- the date of armageddon.
in no world is that a "short period of time".... .
let's put things in perspective, since the wts claims to be the channel god has choosen.
"...I suspect the same thing will happen to Christianity in general, too."
I don't look into other religions much, but from what I've read on this forum Mormons and Scientologists are struggling too, because if the internet.
I wonder about Seventh Day Adventists and larger groups like Baptists and Catholics.
two years to go, and an embarrassing whole century will have gone by after 1914 -- the date of armageddon.
in no world is that a "short period of time".... .
let's put things in perspective, since the wts claims to be the channel god has choosen.
"But I have a hunch that there could be a massive exodus from the Organisation. Especially those who know the WT history well..."
The problem is, there aren't very many Witnesses that know the true past of the Organization. Watchtower has been masterful at revising it's history.
I believe this is changing, but not because the 100th anniversary of 1914 in near.
The older generations of Witnesses had no easy access to what the Organization was really teaching prior to 1914, 1925, etc. After each failure there was an exodus of people from the religion, but the Society would later spin that into "Jehovah cleansed his earthly Organization,' resulting in most Witnesses today thinking those who left were 'over-zealous,' or they 'misunderstood' what the Society was teaching, or they were only 'serving for a date,' and needed to be weeded out.
It's changing because the younger generation is tech savvy, and they have easy access to amazing amounts of information via the internet. In spite of strong warnings from the Society not to search for information about Watchtower's past history, many do it, and more will in the future. They are learning the true history of the Organization, as are many of us older ones now, and it will only snow-ball as time passes.
Watchtower is reaching a point where it can no longer cover up it's sins. Will the religion end? They almost never do. Will it eventually decline? Absolutely. It will be interesting to see how much, and how fast. Watchtower's struggle is just beginning.
we're discussing this over on jwr:.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=12805.
a jdub has posted a video of a talk that stephen lett, a member of the governing body, just gave at a special assembly day in iowa.
Anezthy said,
The Watchtower has used pictures also. There was an article the I read once where a photograph was lifted from a modeling magazine and the female model was introduced into an Awake or WT as living in paradise.
It's from Page 93 of the book You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth, although I can't be sure that it didn't appear in a magazine too.
yearbook 2011 p.9,10 "the spiritual food like physical food needs to be well prepared....the writting department follows the pattern of "tracing all things with accuracy.
} while the internet is a quick source of information, our researchers don't rely on blogs or poorly documented web entries {you guys} written by unidentified or unqualified persons.
{or everyone on this site!!
"...one of the large UNIVERSITY Libraries OUR researchers use have 5 million books...
Imagine all the Bethel Writting comitee hanging at University doing research!!!"
I thought the whole idea of becoming an NGO supporter of the United Nations was so they could 'hang out' at the U.N. library. I wonder why they didn't mention that; or have they forsaken it in exchange for the University libraries?
Either way, Watchtower seems to embrace the things it condemns.
have any of you seen the recent movie, the shunning?
it was written by beverly lewis and directed by michael landon, jr. .
here's the storyline: .
Is it on tv ? or the theatres ?
You can watch it for free on YouTube. See lisaBObeesa's post on page 1 of this thread.
have any of you seen the recent movie, the shunning?
it was written by beverly lewis and directed by michael landon, jr. .
here's the storyline: .
Ella Mae is a gem of a human being. This wise older woman would not support hiding the identity of the woman being searched for, as did the rest of the town, nor would she be part of the shunning.
I doubt that anybody would notice it's a fake unless they had something to compare it to, like the original you posted here. I think it's a pretty good job of PhotoShop work.
I agree the KM is the fake.
- As thin as those are, it couldn't be held as flat as it is; there would have to be some bending or wrinkling in it.
- The lighting on it is too even, as I Want to Believe pointed out.
Have you been having fun with PhotoShop?
it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.
his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.
when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.
Tornapart asked,
Shutting down Branch offices?
Yes, there have been at least a couple of threads on that. Several branches around the world have either closed or will be soon.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/224627/1/New-Zealand-bethel-is-to-be-closed-down
