Full-time, why is calling somone a Egg in Chinese a big insult? I enjoy reading Chinese Poetry and Philosophy, the concept of "Xiao Ren" was Confucious or Lao Tzu?
wáng bā wáng bā dàn guī dàn When reading through
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Gong xi fa cai - Congratulations and Prosperity - CNY 2014 Festival
by fulltimestudent inwishing everyone xin nian kuai le - a happy new year for the year of the horse.. my friend sings a new year song for his friends in english.
(his home and garden featured in parts).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzx8ubhsn0.
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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Cold-Steel, deep material! Nice work!
JWFacts, Nobody in their right mind is going to doubt your email. I swear I know twenty different experiences over the decades where the wives did not put out, the husband was still a virgin after five years! The majority of these situations were sexually-abused victims from family or some other troll. The improper view of sex or distroted view, what was the girl thinking when she got married, he was going to play house and have pajama parties? I know of two brothers now who are in this situation, they are both under 25 years old and feel like they got ripped off! I told them to Divorce and was brought before the Elders!
I would recommend a annulment, it's happened with elderly couples 70s-80s and 90s who remarried, they ended up being people (JWs) who hate each other after getting married and they go their unhappy ways and nobody ever asked questions.
JWFacts, these questions only the wise Sword of Solomon (Watchtower) can give a unique answer direct from god. You have me stumped because the Watchtower wrote us telling us, "What God has yoked together let no man tear apart"
JWFacts, was the act of Celibacy mutually agreed upon? (1 Corinthains 7:5...) or did one partner end up saying "I am not going to have sex with you"? Some victims of abuse get married and then tell their husband (it's 9/10s women I witnessed) how they were abused and "we are not going to have sex because of the pain I went through as a kid"
@Besty, remember when a man could screw another man in the ass and not get disfellowshiped and a woman could not divorce a man who had Gay Sex with 100,000,000 Hot Men? Watchtower Old Light from 1965-1980? Ass-Sex with men does not give a woman a divorce, I don't understand this Cult!
This action was dishonesty on the part of the person wanting to get married, any party who deprives a normal biological desire should be divorced if they can't reconcile. Why did they wait so long? What went through each spouses mind? Did you ask what reasonings were given?
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"Why Nobody Ever Came Looking For You when you faded!"
by RottenRiley inthey are afraid you are going to infect the good works done by the active jws.
are you aware that "one weak jw who is fading can take out five strong jws, so it's best to avoid or greatly limit your contact with weak jws?
" circuit overseer (past) words.. .
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Dismember, they are afraid of your type, the old lazy Elders called Witnesses with zeal "Shooting Stars" claiming all that zeal would last the same duration as a shooting star. The bad vibes you felt were real, Pioneers don't rejoice when a interested person comes to the Kingdom Hall, some get jealous or judge the attendee as being weird. Your not imagining this, it's a fact they act weird around people with great motivation, it makes their lazy, "Pioneer Shuffling", like lizards on ice approach to field service look bad, you ever see a lizard slide on ice, it's really slow!
Shirley, another agency behaves like that, it's called Wall Street, look what happened to Apple after not placing enough units, same goes with the Watchtower, your not placing enough magazines, we are going to "half-your spiritual worth"!
"he upside is it was one of the proverbial last straws that helped me see this Org. for what it is: it's a religion of, "what have you done for us today?" And, guess what? It ain't ever enough, no matter how much you've done!
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"Why Nobody Ever Came Looking For You when you faded!"
by RottenRiley inthey are afraid you are going to infect the good works done by the active jws.
are you aware that "one weak jw who is fading can take out five strong jws, so it's best to avoid or greatly limit your contact with weak jws?
" circuit overseer (past) words.. .
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Mynameislame" Honestly, according to the Watchtower's Criteria, very few were strong Witnesses in my opinion. In the eyes of the Organization, the sister who gave oral-sex to a few householders on Return Visits had great Pioneer numbers, she counted her time in serving him and everyone who liked her in the Kingdom Hall thought she was as strong as they get! The CBOE who is my brother, he drinks heavily, weighs 300lbs (Watermeleon shaped stomach), let's his wife work 2x to 3x more than he does and he is considered Annointed Material by people who do not know he is a pathological liar and stold $15,000 from me! The pedophile we eliminated in our Kingdom Hall was going to be appointed to COBE, he was considered "Very Strong, some thought he was a Angel is disguise" That's how stupid JWs are when they assess the spiritual nature of their men wearing masks! JWs can't understand Scripture, they circumvent God's Word and say "we can observe a man's worth before God by how they act and look" What happened to Samuel picking every man except the one God chose, that's how JWs act :?
D.C.M.S., it's kinda sad how weak their faith is that a member who has not attended is given credit to spread the T-Virus on strong Witnesses, good points the Watchtower's Walls are based of Balsa Wood, one good breeze will knock their doctrines over.
"One weak JW who is fading can take out Five strong JWs, so it's best to avoid or greatly limit your contact with weak JWs?"
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That doesn't say much about the "faith" of a JW, does it?" D.C.M.S
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Elder and CO just dropped by....
by El_Guapo ini haven't been to a meeting in over a year, and as you know as soon as you stop attending meetings/fieldservice the "conditional" love becomes more apperant.
the coordinating elder starts off by saying how much he loves and misses me, etc.
i ask him, when was the last time you called or texted me?
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Dont'CallMeShirley, how do they live with themselves, I was 13 years old when this blow took place, back in 1970 something. The Overseer was crying and nothing changed in our Kingdom Hall.
Where does the Watchtower locate real life stories of "Re-activating Publisers" who fell of the local Kingdom Hall Radar? How many weak JWs did you see get re-activated from the "loving and tremendous effort put forward by Elders Slavin it"? I bet we would have more success finding a Red Leprachaun than locating real life loving stories of JWs!
The Circuit Overseer does have a slip that asks if he checked up on weak familes. Usually we would use that time to go after former high performing Elders who were stumbled after the BOE stabbed them in the back. He would want the Elders to apologize for their sins and the CO would use that crappy old line "If you feel flat faced in the parkinglot, would you wait for the curb to apologize"?
The one elder who really cared quit back in 1984, he currently rent's out his house to a brother on one of the videos somebody recorded of him. The Brother who was so loving, I think he died of a broken heart figuratively speaking!
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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off
by Faithful Witness inrecently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
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I know what you are going through, I have been dealing with this problem longer than you have and know it's a losing proposition asking self-righteous family to behave civilly. Don't take me wrong, I care about the friends on JWN and hate when JWs can play games with your heart, since the Watchtower robbed them of their hearts, your asking stones to have emotions. I hope I am wrong this time and your sister see's your goodness and think's for herself, I mean no disrespect to you. I wish I could share the amount of meetings we had with the friends in the back-room and how the elders would shake their heads and say "Yes, I agree JWs are goat-like when it comes to showing goodness to their family, we can't force them to take to you!" I gave that advice over and over again to soft-hearted people who wanted their brothers and fleshly JWs family to be kind to them, the elders know there is nothing we can do to make them behave!
Steve alway's provides excellent advise along with Jgnat and plenty others, their posts hit home!
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Gong xi fa cai - Congratulations and Prosperity - CNY 2014 Festival
by fulltimestudent inwishing everyone xin nian kuai le - a happy new year for the year of the horse.. my friend sings a new year song for his friends in english.
(his home and garden featured in parts).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzx8ubhsn0.
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Full-Time did you take the GaoDao or your pengyou men? It's time for JWN to learn how to make Nian Gao or Dan Gao depending on your religion.
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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I agree with "designs" assessment, we had this topic come up with judicial committies, the Watchtower wrote us back saying it was "Adultery". Here's the flawed logic used by a traveling brother, when brother jones found his wife had sex with two other ministerial servants, he got drunk that night and she came in and gave him oral sex begging for mercy. The Meeting continued with our Circuit Overseer invovled in this case, he said "Did you really allow her to perform sex on you?" He said "I was drunk, she took advantage of me", CO and elders agreed the brother even though he was drunk has accepted his wife back and could not divorce her without getting disfellowhiped and he was not free to marry. How can we reason with beautiful logic only the Watchtower can provide?
She ended up cheating on this brother, she is currently working on her eight marriage (I swear she is on her eight marriage!) and he is single all screwed up after listening to the Watchtower's views of marriage and life counseling! Her Dad is on Facebook with her Mom having dinner with all these disfellowshiped friends, he was nasty about catching anyone talking to DF'ed people and he is on Facebook with a group of DF'ed people. Only in the Borg!
"Elders were never trained to handle marriage and family issues. DFing was the way to wash blood off the table. Some religions, like the SDA, have actual Pre-Marital counseling for couples and tragedies like this would never happen or be minimized.
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Did they change the shunning article on the JW.ORG Website?
by bluesaph init no longer says, "those who simply leave the congregation are not shunned.".
trying to make us look like liars or what!.
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They use the "Atomic Mushroom Cloud" to gather a crowd around their honey-carts, if we knew what they really offered in the past do you think we would have gotten stuck?
It's hurting me to read posts by members on JWN who are so desperate to connect with Jehovah's Witnesses who want nothing to do with them. Where does this leave you? What pride can we have if our soul is torn by individuals who are not concerned about our welfare but more about practicing righteousness before men? Why do we think we have to cram ourselves down people's throats who hate us? JW Family and friends are not the normal, often their worse than the World and it's because the Cult has disintigrated our already fragile concept of the Western Family. The Watchtower offer's nothing to the World, it's actually lighting fires under Eastern Religions making them grow! That's why the JWs want their people to return to India because Hinduism is trumping their hate filled religion!
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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off
by Faithful Witness inrecently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
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Why do we feel the need to cram our views down people who are obviously done with us? The harder you try to push yourself, the harder she is going to avoid you and know she has control over you. The Witnesses who make the biggest impact are those who can move on with their lives instead of begging and pleading "Just be my friend, I am so broken hearted you are shunning me" is only going to add more pain to you and give your sister the power the Watchtower said they would have. The Watchtower claim's the shunning is going to force you to change you heart and return to the Cult because you miss the kindnes, love and compassion Witnesses offer, look's like your sister is winning this war.
Winning is having dignity you can hold your head up high instead of chasing down people who want nothing to do with you. Why do people surround themselves with others who treat them like shit, low self-esteem, a feeling of reminensing a past relationship that never existed or the challenge to reintagrate themselves in the Human Race, it's not easy making friends but it's better to keep your head held high instead of begging and pleading with calloused souls!