AnnOmaly-
Yes please post what you have, but plese start another thread :)
just a quick overview of some new light that is coming our way, forgive my posting via my cellphone.
audience is given ten questions and we have receved anwsers to r questions.. .
"we are stealing from jehovah, if we are worrying about problems in our life, congregation, or employment.
AnnOmaly-
Yes please post what you have, but plese start another thread :)
dear brothers and sisters,.
who votes on this forum for president, local elections, i have never voted in my life.. .
i have served on jurys many times, no conscientious issues there, i know it is up to everyone to come to their own ideas, our "speaker" made me think, why can't i vote, or why should i not vote?
I got all my registration done online, I believe all states in the USA can do it that way. Just google "Voter Registration <your state>" make sure whatever website you go to (if your in the USA) is listed as a .gov address. On that note it typically is handled by the county clerk if I remember correctly. In my state you can just do it online then you get a nice little Red White and Blue postcard saying you registered.
splane mentioned the predecessors of the gb at his speach at the annual meeting 2012.. this is too crazy ?!?
they become mad at all!:.
"some of these were archbishop agobard of lyons in the 9th century, peter.
I wish this forum had a "like" button. Lost Gen, you gots it.
i'll tell you a story about some thing that happened to me last week.....everyone loves a good story right?...this one is true.
so i got a job selling time shares.
this old guy (about 90 years) walks up wearing a wwii 101 airborne ball cap.
tootired2care- I see what you did there.
i just wonder because i heard the new koolaid is out, but only the july was visible on jw.org..
Since they switched to the E Format I have to buy lighter fluid for my BBQ. This really upsets me, Watchtower and Awakes burn so well :(
ok, i think the writing department has well and truly lost the plot now!.
on page 14 of the august 15th watchtower, there is an extensive section on the perils of the internet, with the caption "do you heed bible-based warnings about the internet?
" in large intimidating letters.
The anti-social networking thing is nothing new. My old hall and several others had an unofficial ban on MySpace back when it was popular. Anytime you bring the internet, worldly people, pictures, music, videos and personality together in one place that tends to be counterproductive for their isolationist stance. I had a MySpace account and loved it, mostly because only the “cool” witnesses were on there and it had tighter security settings than Facebook. Anyway one of the “cool” kids was a married 20 something pioneer I knew from another congregation, she and her husband were on there all the time posting pictures and music and all that jazz. Anyway, one day her account was suddenly shut down. It seemed weird. I texted her husband and asked why and he told me it was BS but to ask the wife for the story, so I did. Turns out her CO had created a fake account under a false name and then prior to the visit and then checked up on every “young person”. So his visit comes along and he pulls her aside and told her if she wanted to continue being a Pioneer the Myspace had to go, apparently and this is a direct quote “the CO was very concerned with pedophiles on the internet”. We stopped talking when I asked her to define the term pedophile and how that in anyway was a threat to a married adult woman.
The point here is that WTBTS wants to control how you use the internet. 16 years ago they printed an article (quoted above) that basically said the internet had the most vile things about humanity just seeping out. They made it sound like if you were on the internet then naked children would fall out of your computer screen all on their own. In 2009 when most people had a pretty good idea of what the internet was and how to use it they tried saying it was a portal for the devil. Now in 2012 they have not only completely failed in keeping followers away from the internet but they have also moved the majority of their propaganda distribution online. Never before in history have I been MORE sure that pure evil is in fact on the net and invading my home.
So along comes Facebook, 800 million users, 24/7 assess at home work and on the go. How long do you suppose before study articles are made available via Facebook? How long before you can “share a link” on the wall of someone who has just lost a loved one, follow the link learn about the imaginary new system… I would guess this is closer than any of us think. Weeks, months certainly inside of a couple years. But first… they must train people to use their Facebook accounts the way the WTBTS wants them too, more control and more influence into every single aspect of your life.
ok, i think the writing department has well and truly lost the plot now!.
on page 14 of the august 15th watchtower, there is an extensive section on the perils of the internet, with the caption "do you heed bible-based warnings about the internet?
" in large intimidating letters.
soooo since the article in 2009 when they said the internet was a portal for the devil... it has now became "a useful way to provide communication, education, and entertainment."
what does genesis 9:4 truly mean, in your opinion?.
some say it means do not eat blood.. .
some say it means do not eat an animal that is alive.. .
To answer the question asked, Gen 9:4 I think is meant to avoid the following situation:
A salesman is lost in a rural area and stops at a farm to get directions. As he is talking to the farmer he notices a pig with a wooden leg. "How did the pig get a wooden leg?", he asks the farmer.
"Well", says the farmer, "that is a very special pig. One night not too long ago we had a fire start in the barn.
"Well, sir, that pig set up a great squealing that woke everyone, and by the time we got there he had herded all the other animals out of the barn and saved everyone of them."
"And that was when he hurt his leg?" asked the salesman.
"Oh no" says the farmer. "He was fine after that. Though a while later I was in the woods out back and a bear attacked me. Well, sir, that pig was near by and he came running and set on that bear and chased him off. Saved me for sure."
"So the bear injured his leg then," says the salesman.
"Oh no. He came away without a scratch from that. Though a few days later my tractor turned over in a ditch and I was knocked unconscious. Well, that pig dove into the ditch and pulled me out before I drowned."
"So he hurt his leg then?" asks the salesman.
"Oh no," says the farmer.
"So how did he get the wooden leg?" the salesman asks.
"Well", the farmer tells him, "When you have a pig like that, you don't want to eat him all at once."
what does genesis 9:4 truly mean, in your opinion?.
some say it means do not eat blood.. .
some say it means do not eat an animal that is alive.. .
Re: Genesis 9:4
What you must remember is that your average JW does not simply read the bible and then apply it to their lives in a logical fashion. Instead they read the bible as a supplement to Watchtower propaganda. Watchtower uses single verses from the bible to justify volumes of doctrine. For example based on Genesis 9:4 and a couple other short verses of the bible the WTBTS has: Outlawed lifesaving blood transfusions, called organ transplants cannibalism, outlawed modern blood fractions, outlawed some drugs who were distantly and in some cases not even directly made from blood or blood fractions, THEN after killing untold thousands by forcing people to refuse the treatments needed to save their lives and the lives of their children they then used the same scriptures to OK organ transplants, blood fractions, medicines made from blood fractions ect… The scriptures never changed but the publications people were using to “study the bible” did.
Your average JW does not know truly believe why they believe what they do all they know is what the WTBTS told them and they can recite basic talking points on the subject.
i was taught at the mts school that no elder has ever broke confidentiality.. .
did my instructors lie to me?.
uun .
NewChapter-
Sounds to me like he was creating a “Controlled Leak” while he knew there was nothing he could oppress you over at the time he knew that once a controlled leak of judicial information took place the rumor mill would do the rest. My guess is that you had a tag on the back of your head that read “Bad Association” and that was the elder body’s way of letting everyone know you were trouble.
Not that it was true by any means but hey… who would expect any type of truth in The Truth.