DO take this seriously and get him some professional help. Talk, Talk, TALK with him, show him you are there for him and that you love him.
"The reward for conformity was that everyone liked you except yourself."
Rita Mae Brown
my 14 year old son, benjamin, confided in me last night that he almost tried to commit suicide this week, he felt so low.. he has been brought up as a jw by his mum all his short life and until recently totally believed all the crap.
although he has not been baptised yet he expressed the desire to pioneer and go to bethel.. then, in the past few months, he suddenly woke up and smelt what he was shovelling.. my son is an extremely gregarious, likable boy with lots of friends in the congregation.
he is always invited to the get-togethers etc.
DO take this seriously and get him some professional help. Talk, Talk, TALK with him, show him you are there for him and that you love him.
"The reward for conformity was that everyone liked you except yourself."
Rita Mae Brown
when we read here we se a lott of backside in this religion, and peopel who read here can belief that it is not a attractiv religion, but who comes that from this famus man franz who as you say stripp this religion ,jw have a tremendus growth,from 2 million to 6millon on 20 year is unbelevebel, some qestion is important ,why and what is the attraction?
despite all this cpmplain the religion is growing,intresting topic,i hope we have a lot of answers.
I've been asking myself that question. Why did I become one. For me it was ignorance and a need of companionship. I was newly married, my husband was raised a witness although he wasn't baptised yet he believed it to be the truth. I had just had a baby and I wanted to raise him with God in his life, I always had a deep beleif in God, I was raised Episcopalian, but as a teenager my parents did study with Mormons and I attended their church in high school. I had a deep desire to do what was right. The witnesses gave me the Live Forever book and I read it front to back in a day or two, however I didn't look up all the scriptures I looked up a few but just took the ones that were cited as proof, it made sense, and my husband was so convinced, even though I had some doubts I was told that was satan. I didn't have a lot of friends because you see I moved around alot when I was growing up and when you come into the truth, you suddenly have couples and people to do things with. They are moral people for the most part and so was I so you just become a part of them and of course they are your only friends. I didn't work but part-time when my kids were young so you surround yourself only with these people and it becomes your world.........then I began waking up from the sleep....it was slow for me over a couple of years...I let myself listen to the voice inside me and say is this logical really....then I started looking up information in their publications..really looking things up....scriptures...I had this talk on the 1914 thing and I thought I would really do some research...then I found this 587-607 BCE web site....I showed it to my husband...he really didn't pay much attention and told me not to look at that stuff. I then started looking at a few websites even though I knew I shouldn't and I ordered Ray's book. I figured if this is the truth, why should I be afraid to read this book. The truth can stand on it's own or it should be able to. That was it I read that book and it confirmed my suspicions I knew I could never turn back.
"The reward for conformity was that everyone liked you except yourself."
Rita Mae Brown
amazed, dumbfounded, flabbergasted are adjectives that only begin to describe my emotions as i learn about the inner workings of the borg during ray's time.
the flip-flops on oral sex (as if it was any of their business to begin with), are simply...i can't even say it - unbelievable.
the sheer cold arrogance of it all.
COC was a real page turner but In Search of Rel Free well I read most of it here and there but sometimes I felt like I was reading a watchtower article it kind of babbled on. The info was great though.
below is an email i received this morning, can you feel the love from the spiritual paradise?
this brings it to a new level of accusations, now i am apparently gay according to the jw gossip mill.
i will have to add that to the list.
I wouldn't give him the benefit of a reply!
b-jw: (hyphen so it dont look too nasty).
i grew up catholic (sorta).
i have two older sisters and a younger brother.
truthseeker I am from the Fresno area, I live in the Clovis foothills. If me or my husband can be of any help let me know. What congregation do you currently (not) attend.
You can e-mail me at [email protected]
i received this today from a confirmed source.
i am sure someone will have the actual scans soon.. .
united nations nations unies.
I would love a copy of this original letter. I will pay for postage.
anyone from the fresno/clovis california area.
i live in the foothills of clovis.
Anyone from the Fresno/Clovis California area. I live in the foothills of Clovis.
reading the other thread about answering at meetings gave me the cold shivers.
there is a fundamental part of being a witness that i've never understood, that just seems so at odds with the philosophy outlined by jesus and the apostles in the new testament - why weren't we allowed to ask questions at the meetings?
hmm???.
I have wanted to ask questions at times to. I never had the guts to ask during the meeting. I did ask afterwards though and usually my questions weren't answered very well.
i have a theory and i'd like to put it to the test here.. i would be willing to bet that the posters who post a great deal probably commented more than the average publisher at the meetings.. i know it's true in my case.. on simon's forum we have the whole range of 'publishers-' from those that comment a lot ---down to those that are just there.
the lurkers.. what about you?.
lisa
I comment if I have something important to say. There are those I swear who comment because they like the sound of their voice. They will repeat what 5 other people have said just re-word it. It drives me nuts during the watchtower. My son took a friend to bookstudy and was wondering how they were going to make 10 paragraphs last an hour. Then after 10 comments on the 1st paragraph he thought man it's going to be a longgggggg hour! I just laughed I told him that's exactly how I feel.
among all those "born again" christian fundies, the general concensus is that the end time generation commenced in 1948.. here is their reasoning espoused by two of their prophetic writers, norman robertson and hal lindsey.. christ gave his great "last days" discourse in matthew 24, stating that "this generation would by no means pass away" before all was fullfilled.. matthew 24v 32,33 states:.
..."now learn from the fig tree as an illustration of this point.
just as soon as you see its young branches grow tender and it puts forth leaves , you know that summer is near.likewise when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors.
I've read a couple of Hal's books. I don't get the impression that he is a prophet or claims to be one. I got the impression that it was his interpretation and nothing more. The borg claims to be God's mouthpiece and that everyone else is evil. Hal doesn't give me that impression. I don't necessarily agree with all his interpretations. You have to admit that trouble always seems to follow the Jews. I get the feeling it is their punishment for killing God's son Jesus Christ. Remember they wanted his blood to come upon them and their children etc. Pilot washed his hands of Jesus's blood. But that is just my interpretation of things.