CJ, loved that picture. It inspired me to make a homemade Shepard's Pie for my kids for dinner tonight and the spaghetti cake for dessert. they currently think I am nuts for trying to convince them I can make pie for dinner and spaghetti for dessert
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Are atheists less imaginative about the unknown?
by sabastious inalmost every atheist i have ever come across i can get along with well.
i love to debate and talk about the world around us and they seem to as well, but i feel like i get a lot of "eye rolls" from the atheists i speak to.. it's ironic that i am six feet six inches tall because i would describe myself as a man with his head in the clouds.
it's up there most of the time and i feel at home when thinking of the future.
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Just a thought though. Why all the topics on trying to prove to atheists why there is noa God. Parden my thinking but some of you atheists seem hell bent on arguing with the atheists. Why can't you accept that some of us don't believe in God and some of us don't?? I respect your beliefs or non beliefs, whatever you want to call them.
FTFY.
Two sides, every story, yadda yadda.
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looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)
by Reality79 inso did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?
because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.
i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.
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You just got lesson 1...Never use common sense and deny them the pleasure of ranting on about the WTS being the source of all wrongs in thier life. If you do, be prepared for the consequences.... (Mine will be coming shortly).
What consequences? An apologist rant for the WTBS? For God? Puhleeeease.
One of the more amusing discussions over there now is a circle jerk session about how no one knows what gravity is or how it works and thank YHWH for making it perfect just the way it was and Isaac Newton, who, according to them, is well known to be close to the "Truth" came the closest to figuring it out.
Guess they never looked at a high school physics book written in, oh, the last hundred years or so or never heard of Einstein.
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Is there Attorney-client privilege for communications sent directly to Bethel legal?
by sinis inif a person retained a lawyer to draft up a document indicating that they no longer want to be an enrolled member (jw's) and therefore annul their baptsim, and send it certified mail directly to an individual named lawyer sitting at bethel, would they not be protected under attorney-client privilege and therefore non disclosure of the information with a third party?
i would think if this was the case and the information was forwarded to the boe, could not the bethel attorney be sanctioned or disbarred?.
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The privilege protects communications that are intended by the client to be confidential as part of an overall relationship between that client and his/her attorney. It protects both the communications from the client, and any advice or other response given by the attorney, the primary purpose of which is legal. Where the privilege attaches to a confidential communication, it attaches to the entire communication, and any unprivileged material contained within it is also barred from disclosure. This includes factual statements from potential witnesses to a disputed issue. A party is not barred from gathering the unprivileged information elsewhere, but cannot do so from a privileged source. The intention of the client with respect to confidentiality determines the applicability of the privilege. The intent of any other recipient, including the lawyer, is irrelevant.
See all those highlighted words? That's the relationship priviledge applies to, namely the client of the attorney with whom you have a relationship with for legal purposes is who the priviledge applies to. Not anyone else. Here is the definition of attorney/client priviledge:
Attorney-client privilege is a legal concept that protects certain communications between a client and his or her attorney and keeps those communications confidential.
If the WT lawyer your attorney? No? Then there is no priviledge. The WT is his/her client and anything you send to the WT attorney can be shared with his client, namely, the WT.
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Is there Attorney-client privilege for communications sent directly to Bethel legal?
by sinis inif a person retained a lawyer to draft up a document indicating that they no longer want to be an enrolled member (jw's) and therefore annul their baptsim, and send it certified mail directly to an individual named lawyer sitting at bethel, would they not be protected under attorney-client privilege and therefore non disclosure of the information with a third party?
i would think if this was the case and the information was forwarded to the boe, could not the bethel attorney be sanctioned or disbarred?.
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Absolutely not. Anything you share with your lawyer is subject to priviledge. Anything you instruct him to share with an outside party is not priviledged information since they aren't your attorney.
The work product doctrine doesn't apply since you aren't doing discovery or preparation for litigation, you are ASKING your attorney to send information to an outside party.
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Are atheists less imaginative about the unknown?
by sabastious inalmost every atheist i have ever come across i can get along with well.
i love to debate and talk about the world around us and they seem to as well, but i feel like i get a lot of "eye rolls" from the atheists i speak to.. it's ironic that i am six feet six inches tall because i would describe myself as a man with his head in the clouds.
it's up there most of the time and i feel at home when thinking of the future.
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I'm betting the power of imagination increases ten-fold when facing one's own mortality with no clear answers.
It increases 10x when it's dark and you hear a strange noise. Up your estimate by at least a factor of 10, bro.
[Edited to add] I love you, cyberjesus. It wasn't my imagination that increased, though.
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Are atheists less imaginative about the unknown?
by sabastious inalmost every atheist i have ever come across i can get along with well.
i love to debate and talk about the world around us and they seem to as well, but i feel like i get a lot of "eye rolls" from the atheists i speak to.. it's ironic that i am six feet six inches tall because i would describe myself as a man with his head in the clouds.
it's up there most of the time and i feel at home when thinking of the future.
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Consider this: What would happen if you spoke to a bunch of geocentric astronomers in the middle ages, and told them that, instead of a teapotbetween earth and mars, there is a huge planet between mars and venus.
I would first point out that a teapot between earth and mars doesn't in any way correlate to a planet between mars and venus. There very well could be a teapot between earth and mars and that has nothing to do with earth being between mars and venus.
And, of course, by "between", I presume you actually mean the orbits of earth, mars and venus since, due to their orbits, they are very rarely all aligned along the planetary plane.
And then I would point out that telescopes didn't exist in the middle ages, having been invented around 1608, the middle ages ending around the mid 1400's. And then I would point that that when they did exist, they weren't powerful enough to do what you were asking.
Likewise, the atheist who says "I see no proof of God, he must not exist" does see proof of God's existence all around him. He just doesn't realize it, because his worldview prohibits him.
Likewise, a faulty conclusion drawn from a faulty premise, bad information and a lack of historical context is faulty. Of course there ARE atheist who say that, but, like most things about most people, they fall along a gradient rather than into a black or white position. Once you realize that, you will realize that, even if your premise is correct (and you really need to work on that), drawing conclusion based on faulty black/white logic when that doesn't really apply to people will lead to a faulty conclusion.
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Could recently discovered codices prove once and for all that Jesus died on a cross?
by truthseeker inthis find, if genuine, is significant.. http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110330/ts_yblog_thelookout/could-lead-codices-prove-the-major-discovery-of-christian-history.
how would the watchtower react if evidence suggests that jesus died on a cross?
this would mean they lied to millions of their members saying that the instrument of jesus' execution was nothing more than a stake, an upright pole.. .
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outside of the microcosm of JW's that make a big deal out of this, no one else cares. they don't think there is anything to prove, except that maybe jesus actually existed.
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Does the Christian message fall apart without a literal interpretation of Genesis?
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what's the point of jesus if adam & eve did not 'fall' and condemn us all to sin?.
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If the bible isn't real in Genesis then how can it be real anywhere else? It all falls apart like a house of cards...
It falls apart faster than your pants fall off when I am around.
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looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)
by Reality79 inso did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?
because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.
i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.
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From their site on apostates... "When one leaves Jehovah's organization and becomes an apostate, they give up any ability they once had to think for themselves as well as any capability of being an honest person ever again. All they can do now is, like a trained parrot, is repeat the same senseless garbage that has been printed in their horrid literature and internet sites."
*snigger*