Posts by logical

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I'm Back

by Yerusalyim in

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hey folks, it's me again, you're good old friend yeru.

i was gone for a whole week at a terrorism awareness class, i got to do some shooting, some driving, crashed through barracades with a car.

it was great fun.

Who is running the Watchtower now?

by professor in

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who is the head honcho and/or big kahuna?

watchtower presidents:.

charles t. russell (1879-1916).

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Im not saying that the above take no responsibility for their actions, on the contrary, they are as bad as Satan himself for willingly carrying out his evil will.

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Who is running the Watchtower now?

by professor in

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who is the head honcho and/or big kahuna?

watchtower presidents:.

charles t. russell (1879-1916).

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All the above people are merely puppets.

The REAL player, the one RIGHT at the top of the Watchtower is none other than Mr S. T. Devil

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I became a master today

by hippikon in

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well thats what happens when you dont celebrate birthdays.

i became a master and someone else had to point it out to me.

funny i don't feel like a master!.

a few of us have been conversing by email on this subject and i thought id throw it out for all to consider, as it affects all of us.. im interested in this subject as it is the question pontius pilate asked jesus, what is truth?

(john 18:37, 38) also, it seems especially apropos for our day as if ever there was a time that truth was needed, it is now.. for me, the following concepts help tremendously, as they are ways to classify and organize truth itself and helps us to realize when we are getting complacent in our thinking.

it also helps emphasize just how little we know, streamlines our avenues of inquiry, and makes the very process of learning exciting.

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Carmel,

Why sign your post "eligah"?

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any musicians out there?

by MuzicmanCa in

i come from an extremely musical family...myself, i am a violinist of 20 years...always enjoy talking music...just seeing what's out there.... muzicman

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If you count making crappy hardcore, house, techno music on a computer as being a musician, then I am one. Not very good though.

http://www.ampcast.com/l-c

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Question to shunned persons

by HesterPryne in

hello everyone,.

if your jehovah's witness relatves came to you and said..... "praise jah, there has been 'new light" and we can associate with you again!".....

what would you say or do?

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ZazuWitts asked me to repost this

JW's are expected to "shun" those disfellowshipped or disassociated. The WTS use Biblical "proof" for this, such as 1 Corinthians 5:9-13:

In my letter I wrote YOU to quit mixing in company with fornicators, not [meaning] entirely with the fornicators of this world or the greedy persons and extortioners or idolaters. Otherwise, YOU would actually have to get out of the world. But now I am writing YOU to quit mixing in company with anyone called a brother that is a fornicator or a greedy person or an idolater or a reviler or a drunkard or an extortioner, not even eating with such a man. For what do I have to do with judging those outside? Do YOU not judge those inside, while God judges those outside? "Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves."

The Greek for the words "quit mixing in company" is "sunanamignumi".

This means according to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance:

"To 'mix up together, i.e. associate with; (have, keep) company (with)."

Also, Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament says of the same word:

"to keep comany with, to be intimate with..."

The same source further uses 1 Corinthians 5:9 and 11 and 2 Thessalonians 3:14 as examples of how the word is used in the Greek text.

This is in contrast with the Greek word "mita". In Strong's Exhaustive Concordance it is interesting to note that this word "sunanamignumi" is shown to mean a much closer association than that or the word mita which merely denotes:

"accompaniment; amid (local or casual) - general association

Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament also says regarding the Greek word sunanamignumi:

"A fellowship far closer and more intimate than that expressed by mita, although in the N.T. (New Testament) this distinction is much oftener neglected than observed. So from here it can be seen that the word used in 1 Corinthians 5:9 and 11 denotes close association, as with a friend, or someone with whom one would normally share a meal with"

So, you can see there is a clear distinction between "mita" (general association) and "sunanamignumi" (close association). This is clearly demonstrated in the Greek language.

We can see why Paul recommended that there should be no "close, or intimate association", or sunanamignumi

When we look at the two words we can clearly see the expression Paul uses really does not suggest at all that one cannot say a simple "hello" out of common courtesy to such an individual. Paul's warning is not to become "intimate" with the individual. However, he could have some "casual" or "general association" since this is what he would have with persons in general.

Pauls councel at 1 Corinthians Chapter 5 does not suggest that a Christian cannot be cordial to disfellowshipped individuals. He could have "general or casual association" with such individuals, which is what the scriptures really indicate.

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Earl Doherty's 'Jesus Puzzle'

by ISP in

part one: a conspiracy of silence.

around the year 107, the christian bishop of antioch made a last, doleful journey.

under military escort ignatius travelled by land from antioch to rome, where in its brutal arena he was to die a martyr's death.

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Where did you get this from? Gonna put the rest up?

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I can't find this scripture.....

by TheApostleAK in

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can any of you remember where about's the scripture is that says that there's 2 types of christians (it destroys the wt belief that there was only anointed in the 1st century ad).

i know its somewhere in one of paul's letters.

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I thought there was only one type of true christian, I dont see more than one type from those verses.

Typical evil WTS twisting of scriptures and applying them somehow to something so obscure and ridiculous.

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Written review

by Moxy in

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i have a number of things to say about this wacky 45min school session.. why is it that it is inappropriate for the conductor to ever simply say that an answer is 'wrong'?

invariably, he must ask for 'another answer,' particularly amusing during the true & false when there is only one other answer.

shouldnt we be helped to reason on why someone might incorrectly come to this conclusion but why, in fact, this other conclusion is the 'correct' one?

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Fred, how did you do?