Posts by TimothyT

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So why did the organisation cause you anxiety or depression?

by TimothyT in

in regards to my other post regarding attending counselling as a jw, i was wondering what it was about being a jw that caused you to be anxious, stressed or depressed?.

for me, i knew that the person i wanted to be was constantly being supressed by the wt.

there was a battle going on in my head between who i wanted to be and who they wanted me to be.

TimothyT

In regards to my other post regarding attending counselling as a JW, I was wondering what it was about being a JW that caused you to be anxious, stressed or depressed?

For me, I knew that the person I wanted to be was constantly being supressed by the WT. There was a battle going on in my head between who I wanted to be and who they wanted me to be. It led to dreadful depression and eventualy to me accepting who I am and leaving. I have never felt happier and more alive! Also, I think that if you leave, then the threats from the platform that you have left the truth, have nowhere else to go, and will lose your family and friends, realy screw with people's minds.

What about you?

Timmy xxx

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Where Is The WBTS, Inc. On This Timeline?

by metatron in

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a simple question.

figure out where the watchtower business is on this business lifecycle timeline (hint: notice the phrase "cost cutting").

http://www.businessmetamorphosis.com/lifecycle.html.

TimothyT

HAHA!!! Mickey mouse, i LOVE that pic and the few annotations.

Yes this does bring back the old business management lectures. Looking at it from this point of view, it seems to me that membership figures have stagnated which shows that the JW 'brand' has reached its maturity. Unless they can find some quirky new way of rebranding (new light?) then i think as Mickey Mouse puts it, they are heading for the cult scrapyard! GOOD RIDDANCE!

Timmy xxx

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Here's a good one the Jehovah's witnesses are worse than Nazi's

by Star tiger in

i'm not sure if this is a controversial subject or not, i suspect it is, the 1936-1945 nazi regime were the most evil b*****d's in the world and thankfully were destroyed, however the jehovah's witnesses having sufffered under their rule, then became even more evil not by destroying the person's physical life, but destroying their way to god, if a person leaves then they become dead to god, and this from a second rate publishing company!

please don't think i'm being flippant about all the suffering and death the nazi's caused, but as we are most of us spiritual people, surely the witnesses caused a catastrophy in the post 1945 era.. best regards,.

star tiger .

TimothyT

Its a good point. I have certainly noticed many similarities between the two.

Both believed salvation lay within them.
Both expected full compliance.
Both had systems to expose and get rid of doubters and troublemakers.
Both tortured (mentaly and emotionaly) those who were wrongdoers or who rejected their ideology.
Both made extensive use of written and oral propoganda.

The list goes on, but in many ways, it appears that the system of control used by the Nazis was an effective one, and im sure it isnt so dissimilar to the one used by the WT today.

Timmy x

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Disturbing parallels between the Westboro Baptists and the WTS

by cedars in

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i have just published a post on jwstruggle.com where i explore the disturbing parallels between the methods and attitudes of the westboro baptist church and jehovah's witnesses.. you may be aware of two recent bbc documentaries by louis theroux, one of which was called "the most hated family in america", the other "america's most hated family in crisis".

i feel that both are excellent viewing for those of us with wives or loved ones who are trapped in the "borg" and wish to draw attention to the similarities between the society and other more obvious cults.. if you would like to read my post, it is on this link: http://www.jwstruggle.com/2011/10/a-troubling-comparison-part-1/.

i hope i haven't offended anyone by posting the link.

TimothyT

Damn... I was thinking of going straight to them when i was disfellowshipped. Nevermind!

Thanks for posting the article!

Timmy x

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I told the baptist church pastor that I'm gay!

by TimothyT in

his reaction wasnt as liberal as i hoped it would be.

he said that we needed to discuss it.

however, gone are the days where im putting myself in the firing line and not sticking up for myself.

TimothyT

Quendi... I LOVE YOU!!! :)

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What Do You Think Of Jehovah?

by minimus in

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TimothyT

HAHAHA... THAT VIDEO!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I love John Cleese! :)

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Governing Body arrogance vs. Legal Department's pragmatism - do you think there will be a slip-up at some point?

by sir82 in

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the recent & surprising developments in the uk and australia got me thinking..... the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is nothing if not arrogant.

they consider themselves "god's channel of communication", stopping just short of claiming divine inspiration.

they believe that they and they alone are the masters of "christ's belongings" and are answerable only to him.. the watchtower society's legal department carefully crafts gb decisions so as not to put the watchtower society's assets or prestige as risk.

TimothyT

Wednesday evening here in the UK. But just think, in the time it has taken me to write this post, one JW in this world may finaly realised what the WT is up to and has woken up. :)

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Is there really any difference between disfellowshipping and disassociation?

by iamwhoiam in

you would think being disfellowshipped is like being fired from a job and being dissassociated is like quitting a job...is this the correct understanding?.

as much as i have been searching for the answer to this question in the later articles, i can't really find a concrete answer.

but being an ms and raised in "the truth", i was always brought up to feel like if someone disassociates themself, they are automatically labeled an apostate.

TimothyT

This was brought up in Crisis of Conscience. Very interesting point when Franz had his JC meeting. They told him that it was wrong of him to be in contact with a dissassociated person. Franz being the mastermind he was, asked them to show it from the bible. They shown the usual scriptures about not eating with fornicators and adultorers, etc. Franz then said, well since so and so isnt any of the above, merely choosing no longer to be a part of this organisation anymore, scripturaly there is nothing wrong with what im doing.

Interesting point isnt it? I suppose there are scriptures which vaguely speak about those who no longer want anything to do with Jesus, etc, but the JW slant on it is a little OTT if you ask me. I therefore think that the difference in the two is huge. But to the JWs there isnt a difference... the idea is to simply get all those who are going to be a negative (although id rather say positive) influence, whether physicaly, mentaly, emotionaly or spiritualy and get rid of them as soon as possible! Sick!

Timmy xxx

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What is truth?

by mankkeli in

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and i dont want to see the dictionary definition of the word, as the word is merely a label, and the definition is merely a description of the word.. .

i want to discuss the concept of truth, as there is alot hiding behind the mere label.. .

to start off with, is truth merely when we come to agreement, and stop questioning?

TimothyT

Thanks SA! Yes i love those scrips you quoted too! They are among my faves from the entire bible.

About the subject... I think truth is a very interesting concept. Im certain that EVERYONE would desire to know the truth about any subject. However i know that it depends on whether or not you are interested. Also, i can imagine some die hards who wont believe the truth even if you flashed it infront of them because their version of truth is so much more true to them. This is a crazy idea though because the truth is true and is always the same, but people can believe something is the truth all their lives because that is what they have been taught and is ingrained into them.

What a CRAZY subject. I look forward to coming back to this thread in a few days and seeing what everyone has written.

Timmy x :)

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Governing Body arrogance vs. Legal Department's pragmatism - do you think there will be a slip-up at some point?

by sir82 in

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the recent & surprising developments in the uk and australia got me thinking..... the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is nothing if not arrogant.

they consider themselves "god's channel of communication", stopping just short of claiming divine inspiration.

they believe that they and they alone are the masters of "christ's belongings" and are answerable only to him.. the watchtower society's legal department carefully crafts gb decisions so as not to put the watchtower society's assets or prestige as risk.

TimothyT

What a good thread. :)

I reckon they have already made some GRAVE careless mistakes and i bet they are now suffering because of them. Lets hope that it spirals out of control soon so we can see the mental liberation of our friends and family! :)

Timmy xxx