I know many here, being former Witnesses are loath to consider anything taught by the WT as being true. But I believe there is truth in all religions. It is a matter of degree. The Witnesses were never "inspired" by God, just good Bible students as well they should have been. That being said, I try not to "throw out the baby with the bathwater." Their interpretation of this period of time as one where God has not intervened with the affairs of man answer many of the debates in previous posts. As many have noted the inequity of God intervening haphazardly leaves the question of his love or righteousness in serious doubt. Rather the larger question of universal soveriegnty needs to be addressed once & never again. As for those who suffer and die needlessly, they have already paid the price & get a "get out of jail free card". Everyone comes back. (Unless you piss off God directly) So, I believe, will all of us.
mrquik
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IS GOD REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW?
by still thinking inthis is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
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Emblem stupidity, and the bizarre dance of the confused memorial-taker
by cedars inwell, i went along to the memorial with mrs cedars.
it was my first since my "awakening" just less than a year ago.
apparently i made a lot of people happy by being there (even if it was only building up false hopes), the most important of which were my family.
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mrquik
Ahh another "Memorial" with me drinking a nice scotch & soda. You have to appreciate the hypocrisy of this meeting. JW's acknowledge the memorial is not for the rank & file. They admit they attend out of respect as there is no Biblical mandate in their religion for them to be there. So, basically this is a "custom" of the Witnesses. I remember many Watchtower articles vilifying mainstream religions for their observing holy days that they admit were customs. Takes one to know one. I just came back inside after raising my scotch & soda to the full moon. I think this shall become my custom. Feel free to join me. (And no vilifying me for using a blended scotch, you limey bastards.)
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Are You Ready for The Memorial?
by OnTheWayOut init's this week, folks.
i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.
many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.
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mrquik
I, too, used to give the talks & pass out the emblems. Haven't gone in 3 yrs. No matter what you believe, this is a waste of time. Time, it turns out, is rather finite & I've decided not to waste one more second on this travesty of a religion. Think I'll drink & howl at the full moon. Much more productive.
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Why Elders leave the Organization and why their Wives stay.
by stuckinamovement ini have talked to quite a few brothers who have served as elders and servants and left the organization.
in most cases their wives have remained in despite the husbands best efforts to persuade his wife that the organization is wrong.
even though the wife can see problems within they continue to press on in service to the society.
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mrquik
I left the ex there. Seemed to work out just fine. Other than that weekly check I write to her.
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Tim Horton's
by Sic Semper Tyrannis ini have a question for my canadian friends here.
i go there often, and i see a tim hortons on pretty much every street, like mcdonalds is down here.
i've gone in to see what the fuss was all about, and all i saw were donuts and pastries i can find in every grocery store or gas station back home.
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Love Tim Horton's. Go to the one in Geneva, NY every morning. Was in Buffalo a few years back. The drive thru line stretched into the road. They had the police directing traffic around it on Transit Rd. Who'd ever thought those crafty Canandians could make good coffee. Probably some master plan on getting us hooked & then taking over the country. I really don't care as long as the coffee keeps flowing.
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Eating Blood v Transfusion . . . same thing?
by sizemik inthe wts ban on the transfusion of whole blood or primary components is established on a number of "principles" which when taken in their entirety give rise to the doctrine.. one important one is the refusal to distinguish between the consumption of blood by eating .
and the consumption of blood by surgically implanting it (transfusion).
we've all heard the "alcohol" analogy.
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Good comparison Size; I doubt any within the cult would notice the reasonableness of the arguement.
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Not fearing Armageddon
by tec insome time ago i was granted some understanding about 'armageddon', and so i am sharing it with you.
i should have shared it when i first received it from our lord.. there is nothing to fear if you are not riding out to make war against someone.
satan deceives the nations and gets them to march against those who belong to christ and god.
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When is Armageddon? I don't want to pay for a full year of HBO if I don't have to.
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IS GOD REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW?
by still thinking inthis is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
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mrquik
So nobody liked the watch analogy.
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IS GOD REAL? HOW DO YOU KNOW?
by still thinking inthis is an honest question on my part.
someone on this board asked me 'how do you know' a while ago and i really struggled with it.
in fact, it was a turning point for me.
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mrquik
Let's use science & common sense instead. Look at the watch on your wrist. What is the mathematical probability of all the pieces creating themselves individually & then combining on their own to create a watch. Reasonable anwer & one backed by the science of mathematical probability would be zero. Apply that to a single cell. The odds just grow. Keep in mind that we can't create life & we have better odds. (And equipment. Look at neat things Dr. Frankenstein had & it worked out badly for him.)
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CRAZINESS!!! I'M BEING 'MARKED' FOR GOING TO COLLEGE!!!
by MsGrowingGirl20 inohmygosh!!!
one of my friends who is a ms told me today that the elders have 'marked' me because i'm a reg.pioneer and i've decided to go to college next semester???!
he said he can't tell me anymore but to be careful---what the hell does 'mark' mean?
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mrquik
I was removed as an elder from the congregation for not having a study with my 19 yr. old daughter. She was attending college at that time & made it abundantly clear she was not going to study. I told all this to the committee but the fact that she lived at home made it my personal problem. It came to a head when the CO visited & brought this up at the elders' meeting on Sunday afternoon. He wanted to take a vote. I told him not to bother, I'm resigning. That was the beginning of the end of my involvement in that religion. I later divorced & of course was kicked out. I still was considering reinstatement. Fortunately one guy on the DF committee really wanted to make an example of me. (Thanks Frank) That pissed me off enough to look elsewhere & here I am today. If you live long enough, life just gets funnier & funnier. Hang in there.