(peeking out from behind cyber-shield)
{{{{Wendy }}}}}}
I've missed you!
The kitty will be fine unless Riley tries to eat its food!
love, laura
lauralisa
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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)
by Wounded Heart inused to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.
i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.
the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.
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Walking Wounded:
Please visit http://www.sidran.org
It is an invaluable resource for just about everything you are in need of right now.
A few comments, if I may, however....
You are an incredible person and mother in your devotion to helping your daughter. You must learn quickly though how to proceed so as to keep yourself healthy... and this may break your heart to read, but... your very genuine, loving efforts to help her just might be exacerbating her condition.
In which area of the country do you and/or your daughter live? Please find a licensed psychotherapist, preferably one who is a member of the ISSD, as soon as possible to get expert and appropriate direction. This is critical.
I'll edit to post URLs that may help you in this regard
Another thing that strikes me after reading your last post - and I hope this makes sense (well, as much sense as anything can) - PLEASE, it is imperative that you and your daughter and her fiance know that ALL of her alters are well-meaning and think they are doing the best thing to protect the entire system, despite how their behaviors manifest. It's incredibly difficult to comprehend, but the only way to "get" to them is through a compassionate, accepting approach. If they are regarded as "bad" or "enemies" or such, no progress will be made, and it could get A LOT worse.
I hope you find some support, relief and comfort soon, and that things quiet down for everybody involved.
lauralisa
PS to waiting
I'd love to know what your conclusion was...
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Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)
by Wounded Heart inused to be called multiple personality disorder (mpd).. i have it.
i was physically, emotionally, sexually abused.
the tramas in my life were so great that i split into many.
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Encouraging book excerpt moment !
(Dedicated to waiting)
But after recovery, after they have chosen to live, these same people often truly live - passionately, in a way many other people never achieve. Survivors embody extremes of human experience, such that everyday misery is a near-stranger to them. At first, their pain is much worse than our everday misery, by a factor so large that it would be difficult for most people to conceive of it. And then later, after recovery, everyday misery is simply unacceptable. Life must be a passionate, conscious journey, or it is just not worth the survival effort.
In the context of their own personal experience, and their struggle to come to terms with it, survivors inevitably address certain questions. Does anyone every truly care about anyone else? Is love just a word? On this planet, is it possible to be in control of anything? Is it all right not to be in control? Does human life, in its pain and vulnerability, contain something that makes it worthwhile? And these questions are not asked philosophically, from the relatively detached stance that the rest of us might enjoy at times, but rather from a position of intense and consumingly personal relevency every day.
Eventually, the trauma survivors I see glean their own answers to some of the mot fundamental human questions. And the beliefs, strategies, and personal values they come to live by are fascinating, a school for human life. Perhaps the most instructive of all is the recovered trauma survivor's intimate relationship with what is for many people the most distant of philosophical concepts: awareness of the truth. That awareness is life-giving: that dissociation and numbness are lethal, is a lesson the recovered survivor has learned down to his or her bones. It is the lesson that sparks the missionary's glint. It restores faith, and makes living a workable choice. And though the turnabout may seem ironic, this lesson is precisely the one that many of us have not learned deeply enough to make genuine living possible. Perhaps, like grandchildren, we can learn it from the "old souls", from the survivors.
From The Myth of Sanity: Divided Consciousness and the Promise of Awareness by Martha Stout, PhD, one of the best books I've ever read
Highest regards to all who have survived,
lauralisa
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Anyone from Minnesota?
by scootergirl inlooking for anyone from the st. cloud congregations (i was in the north one)...or surrounding areas.
oh heck, anyone from minnesota is fine!
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Hi Scootergirl,
I'm just south of the cities. I've only been here for six weeks, so I have to look at a map to find St. Cloud!
If Harmony, Gopher and Thirdson are examples of how cool ex-dubs are here, then we're in good shape. I hope to get to meet you someday.
lauralisa
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Thanks to Everyone!
by Amazing inright now my body is half shaven with needle marks and bruises everywhere.
if i were stopped on the streets of chicago looking like this, staggering with fatigue, i would be arrested.
something we men have a hard time getting through our thick heads is that just because we feel basically okay, does not mean that we can or should do a lot physically after a traumatic event ... and i found this out by doing a little too much walking at the hospital chest tightened, became out of breath, and got dizzy.
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Hi Amazing,
I'm so relieved to find you "out" and faring well. So, no mowing the lawn for you. Please take care,
lauralisa
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Dateline and My Mother-Part 2
by teenyuck ini started this thread yesterday afternoon..... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=28727&site=3.
i watched dateline and within minutes of the jw section being completed, i called my mother.
i could tell she had been crying.
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Hi Puffs
Wow. I am so glad to hear about your conversation w/ your mother. You must be feeling wonderful! I hope there are thousands more like you - if this is an example of the impact Dateline had on families, then the heros who have paid such a high price to help make this happen (there are hundreds of them) will have even more reason to find some joy in this macabre ordeal....
May all napkins from this day forth be placed on the heads of females ONLY during sunny picnics at family reunions...
Smiles, laura
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About Daniel Fitzwater-Exposed on Dateline
by LFitzwater inthis is a very long story that i will try to condense.
it will still probably be too long.
life is good for us now that we know the real truth.
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Hi Laurie,
That was brave. YOU are brave. Thank you for what you wrote. Peace to you and your husband,
lauralisa
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For those of us who Didn't See DATELINE.....
by Prisca in...could someone please give us a summary of what happened on the show, who was interviewed, what they said, what the reporter said, what the wts' pr said, etc.. it would be much appreciated, thanks..
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Hi Prisca, Ozzie, WW...
It was extremely concise, to the point, balanced, and fair. It was staggeringly direct.
I taped it... I'm sure transcripts will be forthcoming soon... it was heartbreaking, and amazing, and exhilarating.
The initial rush has worn off at least for me, and I'm left wondering how Erica, Barbara Anderson, the Bowens, Holly, and the Pandelos are doing right now. The sense of vindication may be wonderful for the moment.... there's hell to pay for this though, I would imagine
NBC TRIED to get the WTS to at least make an attempt to go on record for the public, but in their refusal, they ended up looking very, very very very very very very very dubious.
Emotions running high here
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Video Game Systems. Which is better? Help!
by BeautifulGarbage inplaystation.
xbox.
my daughter wants to buy a game system.
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Where's bboynecko?
I wouldn't understand a thing he might say, but it would be cool to read anyway.
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I need help/info on other religions vs the WTS
by Leander inover the past week since i've announced that i was stepping down i have had a few conversations with my family, and against my better judgement i mentioned that i was having doubts.
invariably almost every discussion about the jw religion eventually boils down to the argument that only witnesses are doing this or that.
unfortunately this is a weak part of my debate, i have only been associated with the jw religion so i have very little information on what other religions beleive and practice.
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Hi Leander,
You said:
Unfortunately this is a weak part of my debate, I have only been associated with the JW religion so I have very little information on what other religions beleive and practice. So I was hoping that maybe a few of the people here might be able to help me out with a few answers.
Leander, there are so many religions that exist, have existed, and will exist - and yes, there ARE other non-mainstream religions that have doctrinal positions consistent with the WTS.I have an OLD book... circa 1880 - that I found among my great-grandmother's belongings once. I still have it. It is entitled Religions Denominations of the World, and lists literally hundreds of "denominations" with brief descriptions of their basic tenets. And THAT was over a century ago.
Lacking time at this point to provide you with any specifics unfortunately, but if time allows I'll try to dig up some material for you soon.
I remember that very argument ("only jw's teach....") keeping me in a locked state of mind, and can appreciate the hold it has on people.
A very good friend is married to a guy who is difficult to understand. EVERYONE (besides her) thinks he is an incredible jerk-off. He seems abusive to her in many ways. BUT... she is thriving as an individual; personally and professionally she is growing and enjoys her life; if there were any indications or evidence of abuse taking place in her life many people would intervene... but there is nothing there other than she is a vibrant, positive and intelligent woman who is happy. So we leave it alone and give her all of the benefit of our doubt.
There are "alternative" lifestyles out there which give certain people pause because it seems obvious to THEM that these lifestyles are WRONG!!! But when the individuals involved are vibrant contributors to society who are healthy and happy, it seems kinda clear that the issue is with intolerance and fear of things "strange" - and interfering with the situation is intrusive and not necessary.
On the other hand. When thousands, if not millions of people are dying slow deaths or shriveling into little non-beings who live in helpless hopelessness because of their adherence to a particular religion (or addiction, or behavior, etc. etc.) then it is not out of line to question the "goodness" of that religion/practice/behavior.
"By their fruits you will know them" as they say.
Take care, laura